[governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Tue Jan 22 19:17:12 EST 2013 

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
apisan at unam.mx> wrote:

>  Michael,
>
>  in the same "what if" vein... what if the clever boffins in the OECD
> have realized that there is nothing exceptional about money made over the
> Internet, and leave it to each country to continue to try to exact taxes
> from income, profits and rents, as the countries' laws, regional
> arrangements, multipartite and global treaties mandate and allow? Wouldn't
> they be even more keen in stopping gaps and diversion schemes than any
> participant in these discussions is? (you said they are clever, they are
> boffins, and they are in the OECD... the rest is my second guessing.)
>

Of relevance in this instance would be the *OECD Technology Advisory
Group*that comprises of Tax (Revenue Authorities) that conduct the
Professional
Data Assessment  and members from the Technology community namely:

   - USA (IRS)
   - UK (Inland Revenue)
   - Canada
   - Ireland
   - Australia
   - France
   - British Telecom
   - CISCO
   - Ernst & Young
   - Eurobit
   - European Certification Forum
   - Hewlett Packard Labs (UK)
   - Hitachi
   - IBM
   - ICANN
   - Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)
   - Mondex
   - National Association of Software and Services Companies (NASSCOM) -
   India
   - Nippon
   - Telegraph and Telecom
   - Oracle


 They may also be truly concerned about maintaining the technical integrity
> and global seamlessness of the Internet. I know a few people who share all
> these characteristics. Anyone talking to them to find out directly?
>
>  Yours,
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
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> *Desde:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [
> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de michael gurstein [
> gurstein at gmail.com]
> *Enviado el:* martes, 22 de enero de 2013 16:38
> *Hasta:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; 'Nick Ashton-Hart'
> *Asunto:* RE: [governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax
>
>   As an aside and addressed to no one in particular, it occurs to me that
> for those who are truly concerned about maintaining the technical integrity
> and global seamlessness of the Internet should be looking to find
> appropriate and globally equitable means for taxation of Internet related
> activities rather than presenting ideologically based anti-tax posturing.
>
>
>
> France may or may not succeed with this particular initiative, but behind
> them are most of the other OECD countries and behind them is the rest of
> the world looking to get some fair share from rapidly escalating Internet
> based revenues.  Better to my mind to have a reasonable and technically
> compliant plan in place than to attempt to play catch up as every country
> thunders forward with its own national taxation scheme and chaos in some
> form ensues…
>
>
>
> (Anyone want to bet that the clever boffins in the OECD aren't already
> working in this direction?
>
>
>
> M
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> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:
> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Ashton-Hart
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:17 PM
> *To:* William Drake
> *Cc:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax
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>
>
> We've found that there's a need for much more coordination and
> consultation between ministries responsible for ITU matters and trade
> ministries.
>
> --
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> Regards,
>
>
>
> Nick Ashton-Hart
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> Sent from my one of my handheld thingies, please excuse linguistic
> mangling.
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>
> On 22 Jan 2013, at 21:22, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>
>
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> On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at ccianet.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>  It would not be possible for a measure  to target foreign companies only
> - that would breach France's WTO obligations (and that of many other
> countries were they to try to do the same thing).
>
>
>
> A small problem that seemed to receive zero discussion among the
> proponents in Dubai
>
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