[governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax

Tue Jan 22 18:37:48 EST 2013

Michael,

in the same "what if" vein... what if the clever boffins in the OECD have realized that there is nothing exceptional about money made over the Internet, and leave it to each country to continue to try to exact taxes from income, profits and rents, as the countries' laws, regional arrangements, multipartite and global treaties mandate and allow? Wouldn't they be even more keen in stopping gaps and diversion schemes than any participant in these discussions is? (you said they are clever, they are boffins, and they are in the OECD... the rest is my second guessing.)

They may also be truly concerned about maintaining the technical integrity and global seamlessness of the Internet. I know a few people who share all these characteristics. Anyone talking to them to find out directly?

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Enviado el: martes, 22 de enero de 2013 16:38
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Asunto: RE: [governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax

As an aside and addressed to no one in particular, it occurs to me that for those who are truly concerned about maintaining the technical integrity and global seamlessness of the Internet should be looking to find appropriate and globally equitable means for taxation of Internet related activities rather than presenting ideologically based anti-tax posturing.

France may or may not succeed with this particular initiative, but behind them are most of the other OECD countries and behind them is the rest of the world looking to get some fair share from rapidly escalating Internet based revenues.  Better to my mind to have a reasonable and technically compliant plan in place than to attempt to play catch up as every country thunders forward with its own national taxation scheme and chaos in some form ensues…

(Anyone want to bet that the clever boffins in the OECD aren't already working in this direction?

M

From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Nick Ashton-Hart
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Subject: Re: [governance] France Proposes an Internet Tax

We've found that there's a need for much more coordination and consultation between ministries responsible for ITU matters and trade ministries.
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On 22 Jan 2013, at 21:22, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>> wrote:

On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at ccianet.org<mailto:nashton at ccianet.org>> wrote:

It would not be possible for a measure  to target foreign companies only - that would breach France's WTO obligations (and that of many other countries were they to try to do the same thing).

A small problem that seemed to receive zero discussion among the proponents in Dubai
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