techno-politics was Re: [governance] Bloomberg - The Overzealous

[Avri Doria]

> 2. Work from within the system to change what you feel is wrong with it

Yes and no..

The systems by and large excludes this, and other topics, as a matter of faith and will not allow work to be done as a matter of political faith.

And accountability as well as advocacy often requires doing political, or technical work, in outside groups in order to get the system to take on a challenges the system calls too hard or against our morality.

avri


On 20 Jan 2013, at 09:28, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> It is techno political to the extent that otherwise it is entirely
> difficult to ensure that the lists.igcaucus.org we all know and love is the
> actual lists.igcaucus.org we expect to get, and not some alternative
> provided by a third party that thinks they are the ig caucus, or some
> sinister government plot to snoop on their civil society
> 
> I tend to disagree with lessig's "code is law" as an overly broad
> generalization, but sometimes engineering and security are hard
> considerations of reality that we can't get away from, politically
> expedient or not.
> 
> If there is an atlernate political theory there are two ways out -
> 
> 1. An engineering model that scales worldwide to back it. if you espouse an
> alternate system
> 
> 2. Work from within the system to change what you feel is wrong with it
> 
> #1 has been proposed multiple times, but I am afraid it has failed to
> actually work beyond being an interesting hobbyist theory. Or where it is
> done at scale, it is definitely not transparent, and even sinister in
> nature (dnschanger trojans, government sponsored alternate roots for
> censorship ..)
> 
> The root hierarchy that is available now is also a valuable tool to address
> any security threats as a global, coordinated technical community.


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