[governance] FW: [IP] Google's Lawyers Work Behind the Scenes : FOR THE RECORD!

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Tue Jan 8 03:47:17 EST 2013


i am willing to be corrected

have you posted on anything much else recently, other than news articles about google's tax strategies or their privacy policy?

--srs (iPad)

On 08-Jan-2013, at 13:35, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> wrote:

> SRS
> 
> For the record, I note this is an ad hominem attack. But as usual "right wing" bashers like this do not provoke calls for balance and openness. So as per "eye for an eye" which is fair, given I am left to hang with this:
> 
> I am open to engaging substantively, but please do not achieve your right wing obsequious ambitions be achieved at my expense. You may land a plum job or contract, but I think you have to develop not just crass but sophisticated crass like some of the status quoists on this list. In other words, you need to up your game.
> 
> This is also for the record because the next time the "right" on this list bashes someone on the left I am going to trawl this out to expose double standards. This is the second time (from my recent trawling) that ad hominem attacks on the "left" has gone unnoticed. I do not do this to hold any complaints hostage or to have a chilling effect. In fact, quite the opposite, it will be used to chill those who are very quick to call for balance/peace/dialogue while spitting fire. 
> 
> Riaz
> 
> 
> On 2013/01/06 06:52 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> So do you get all your news from just news.google.com and other google search results, instead of Facebook shares, Riaz gleefully posting every article he sees about google being investigated for, say, giggling in church?
>> 
>> And did Riaz find this news item anywhere other than google search?
>> 
>> And does this reality distortion field google is supposed to have actually hide any search results from you that are negative to it?  Like search for "google FTC" and you get the EU action, statements from Microsoft slamming the decision etc.
>> 
>> And the last link on page 1 of the search results showing just where google got spanked by the FTC.  http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/111650/why-does-everyone-think-google-beat-the-ftc# is worth a read as a kind f counterpoint to all the commentary about how google got a get out of jail card because of intensive lobbying.
>> 
>> Can we please
>> 
>> 1. Have a reality check here
>> 2. Go back to discussing Internet governance 
>> 
>> --srs (iPad)
>> 
>> On 06-Jan-2013, at 22:00, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Riaz (and sorry for the really awkward phrasing…
>>>  
>>> To put that in English…
>>>  
>>> I'm wondering whether it wouldn't be better to "investigate" Google for possible "freedom of thought" violations rather than issues concerning "freedom of speech"… Google has the potential for much more serious impacts on our capacity to know (or not know) certain things, than on what we can say or not say…
>>>  
>>> M
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