Fwd: [governance] Re: Preparar los puntos de vista

Deirdre Williams williams.deirdre at gmail.com
Wed Feb 20 13:48:06 EST 2013


Sorry - I pressed Reply instead of Reply All.
Deirdre

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From: Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com>
Date: 20 February 2013 14:46
Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Preparar los puntos de vista
To: Koven Ronald <kovenronald at aol.com>


I think that "we" will pay (unless we're based in the United States), as in
the end "we" pay for everything, being at the bottom of this particular
pyramid (and most other pyramids come to that).
But perhaps you mistook my point - which I didn't elaborate very clearly -
that UNESCO since 2008 has been the champion of linguistic diversity.
I hear from an informed friend in Paris that " the IGF open consultations
will be in 6 languages but the rest, only in EN some and in EN/FR others. The
program is only in English <https://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/events> as
every other material distributed until now."
If we might sound like spoiled children I am wondering who our "elders and
betters" would be? :-)
Deirdre


On 20 February 2013 14:32, Koven Ronald <kovenronald at aol.com> wrote:

> Dear All --
>
>  Just who do you think will pay for interpretation into 6 languages ?
> French and English are the official working languages of the UN system, and
> UN meetings in those 2 languages is standard. Interpretation in all 6
> official UN languages is the exception, not the rule. When still other
> languages are requested, the interpreters must be paid for by the
> governments requesting them.
>
>  Given that UNESCO has lost 22% of its budget because of US law and is
> involved in drastic budget-cutting, you are unlikely to get a very
> sympathetic hearing for a demand of more than the standard working
> languages.
>
>  There's also a problem of the image that civil society projects. If it
> is even more demanding of pricey services than even member-state
> governments are, it risks coming across as demanding spoiled children.
>
>  Bests, Rony Koven
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch>
> To: governance <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; Deirdre Williams <
> williams.deirdre at gmail.com>
> Cc: José Félix Arias Yn
> che <jaryn56 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:30 pm
> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Preparar los puntos de vista
>
>  Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > However since there is the possibility of remote participation - and I
> > imagine that with UNESCO we can rely on the availability of
> > interpretation as well???
>
> I don't know about the IGF "open consultations" specifically, but at
> the main WSIS+10 conference, the main sessions and *some* of the
> workshop will have interpretation into French. I haven't heard anything
> about provisions for Spanish or any other language besides English.
>
> Do we have consensus that if the "open consultations" don't support at
> least the five UN languages, including for remote participants, they're
> definitely not open enough?
>
> If we have agreement on this point, that's something that I could point
> out while there.
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
>
>
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