Sorry - I pressed Reply instead of Reply All.<div>Deirdre<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Deirdre Williams</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: 20 February 2013 14:46<br>Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Preparar los puntos de vista<br>To: Koven Ronald <<a href="mailto:kovenronald@aol.com">kovenronald@aol.com</a>><br><br><br>I think that "we" will pay (unless we're based in the United States), as in the end "we" pay for everything, being at the bottom of this particular pyramid (and most other pyramids come to that).<div>
But perhaps you mistook my point - which I didn't elaborate very clearly - that UNESCO since 2008 has been the champion of linguistic diversity.</div><div>I hear from an informed friend in Paris that "<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> the IGF open consultations will be in 6 languages but the rest, only in EN some and in EN/FR others. </span><a href="https://www.unesco-ci.org/cmscore/events" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">The program is only in English</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> as every other material distributed until now."</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">If we might sound like spoiled children I am wondering who our "elders and betters" would be? :-)</span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Deirdre</span></div></font></span><div><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 February 2013 14:32, Koven Ronald <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kovenronald@aol.com" target="_blank">kovenronald@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Just who do you think will pay for interpretation into 6 languages ? French and English are the official working languages of the UN system, and UN meetings in those 2 languages is standard. Interpretation in all 6 official UN languages is the exception, not the rule. When still other languages are requested, the interpreters must be paid for by the governments requesting them. </font>
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<div><font>Given that UNESCO has lost 22% of its budget because of US law and is involved in drastic budget-cutting, you are unlikely to get a very sympathetic hearing for a demand of more than the standard working languages. </font>
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<div><font>There's also a problem of the image that civil society projects. If it is even more demanding of pricey services than even member-state governments are, it risks coming across as demanding spoiled children.</font></div>
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<div><font>Bests, Rony Koven<br>
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To: governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>; Deirdre Williams <<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<pre style="font-size:9pt"><tt>Deirdre Williams <<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
> However since there is the possibility of remote participation - and I
> imagine that with UNESCO we can rely on the availability of
> interpretation as well???
I don't know about the IGF "open consultations" specifically, but at
the main WSIS+10 conference, the main sessions and *some* of the
workshop will have interpretation into French. I haven't heard anything
about provisions for Spanish or any other language besides English.
Do we have consensus that if the "open consultations" don't support at
least the five UN languages, including for remote participants, they're
definitely not open enough?
If we have agreement on this point, that's something that I could point
out while there.
Greetings,
Norbert
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