[governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll
Kerry Brown
kerry at kdbsystems.com
Mon Feb 18 09:50:13 EST 2013
I've been thinking about this for a couple of days. It is very tempting to extend the vote but in the end I believe that we have rules for a reason. The first time a rule doesn't work isn't the time to change the rule. It's not really a rule then. By our existing rules the proposals failed. We have rules to deal with this. I don't support changing the rules mid-stream. If people want to change the rules then use the proper procedures and propose a change and have a vote.
Kerry Brown
From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Ginger Paque
Sent: February-18-13 6:37 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Ian Peter
Cc: Adam Peake; Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
Subject: Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll
I agree with Ian: I support extending the voting period and reminding list members to vote as soon as possible.
Thanks gp
Ginger (Virginia) Paque
VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu<mailto:VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu>
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Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme
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On 16 February 2013 13:35, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com<mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>> wrote:
sorry if my last message wasn't clear - I am in favour of counting the existing votes as valid, and just looking to boost the numbers of votes count, rather than running the whole process again.
Ian
-----Original Message----- From: Adam Peake
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:27 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org<mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org> ; Ian Peter
Cc: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
Subject: Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll
Agree it would be helpful to know how many votes.
But before re-doing the vote (how many times, until 'we' get the
result we want?), could we have the amendments presented again. With
time for discussion, and then see if again there is support to hold a
vote.
Adam
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com<mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>> wrote:
Hi Sala,
How many votes short are we of a positive result?
That would determine perhaps the best way to go.
In this case I dont think there is any great risk in re-opening the vote to
get extra responses. The results in each ballot are clearly in favour of the
reforms, the will of the caucus seems clear, it's just a technicality that
we have not had enough responses. (I would feel differently if on any of the
ballots the no votes were roughly equivalent to the yes votes)
So I would suggest re-opening the ballot to allow those who havent voted to
do so - accompanied by encouragement and reminders.
Ian
From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:17 PM
To: Ian Peter
Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org<mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
Subject: Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll
Dear Ian and All,
You are correct. I apologize to the IGC for the oversight, the mistake is
mine.
As such, we currently have two options and they are:-
Option 1
Accept from the votes that all the proposals have failed based on the
results of the votes.
Option 2
Re-run the votes
If we take Option 2, we run the risk of setting a precedent for extending
voting periods for other things that require voting including coordinator
elections. Should we consider the current votes invalid and cast fresh votes
or extend the votes.
In any event, the current revisions to the Charter that are on the website
will be reversed to reflect what it originally was.
For the sake of completeness, the record of the votes is as follows:
76 responses were submitted, though some respondents did not answer all
questions, as none of them were compulsory.
On proposal 1, 70 voted in favour, 4 against, and 2 did not vote.
On proposal 2, 62 voted in favour, 5 against, and 9 did not vote.
On proposal 3, 71 voted in favour, 2 against, and 3 did not vote.
On proposal 4, 65 voted in favour, 3 against, and 8 did not vote.
Thank you and Kind Regards,
Sala
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com<mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>> wrote:
Sala, are you sure?
The charter amendment process states that it is 2/3 of membership required
for charter amendments, not 2/3 of those who bothered to vote. My
understanding is that none of the votes result in charter amendments,
because none of them had over 2/3 of members supporting. The relevant
charter quote is below.
Amendments to the Charter
This charter can be amended at any time as proposed by no fewer than ten
(10) members and as approved by no less than two-thirds (2/3) of the members
of the IGC. The membership requirements for amending the charter are based
on the most currently available voters list. In amending the charter,
everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for
amending the charter.
(perhaps it should be different but it isn't on my reading)
Ian Peter
From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:11 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org<mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
Subject: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll
Dear All,
Greetings! This is a brief update on the results of the IGC Charter
Amendment Poll. Here are the results:
76 responses were submitted, though some respondents did not answer all
questions, as none of them were compulsory.
On proposal 1, 70 voted in favour, 4 against, and 2 did not vote.
On proposal 2, 62 voted in favour, 5 against, and 9 did not vote.
On proposal 3, 71 voted in favour, 2 against, and 3 did not vote.
On proposal 4, 65 voted in favour, 3 against, and 8 did not vote.
This means that all proposals pass with greater than 80% approval, which
is excess of the 2/3 requirement. The text of the amendments is found at
http://igcaucus.org/formally-proposed-charter-amendments and the charter as
amended is at http://igcaucus.org/charter and
http://igcaucus.org/nomcom-process.
I would also like to acknowledge and thank you all for your contributions,
elaborate discussion and for taking the time to vote. Thank you to all those
who proposed the amendments and initiated the process and to all those who
took part. Special thanks also to Norbert for conducting the Poll and to
Jeremy for helping out.
With Kind Regards,
Sala (on behalf of the Coordinators)
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