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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ve been thinking about this for a couple of days. It is very tempting to extend the vote but in the end I believe that we have rules for a reason. The first
time a rule doesn’t work isn’t the time to change the rule. It’s not really a rule then. By our existing rules the proposals failed. We have rules to deal with this. I don’t support changing the rules mid-stream. If people want to change the rules then use
the proper procedures and propose a change and have a vote.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kerry Brown<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ginger Paque<br>
<b>Sent:</b> February-18-13 6:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Ian Peter<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adam Peake; Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Ian: I support extending the voting period and reminding list members to vote as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks gp<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Ginger (Virginia) Paque<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Diplo Foundation<br>
Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 16 February 2013 13:35, Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">sorry if my last message wasn't clear - I am in favour of counting the existing votes as valid, and just looking to boost the numbers of votes count, rather than running the whole process again.<br>
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Ian<br>
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-----Original Message----- From: Adam Peake<br>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:27 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a> ; Ian Peter<br>
Cc: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br>
Subject: Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll<br>
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Agree it would be helpful to know how many votes.<br>
<br>
But before re-doing the vote (how many times, until 'we' get the<br>
result we want?), could we have the amendments presented again. With<br>
time for discussion, and then see if again there is support to hold a<br>
vote.<br>
<br>
Adam<br>
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On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Sala,<br>
<br>
How many votes short are we of a positive result?<br>
<br>
That would determine perhaps the best way to go.<br>
<br>
In this case I dont think there is any great risk in re-opening the vote to<br>
get extra responses. The results in each ballot are clearly in favour of the<br>
reforms, the will of the caucus seems clear, it’s just a technicality that<br>
we have not had enough responses. (I would feel differently if on any of the<br>
ballots the no votes were roughly equivalent to the yes votes)<br>
<br>
So I would suggest re-opening the ballot to allow those who havent voted to<br>
do so – accompanied by encouragement and reminders.<br>
<br>
Ian<br>
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From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:17 PM<br>
To: Ian Peter<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll<br>
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Dear Ian and All,<br>
<br>
You are correct. I apologize to the IGC for the oversight, the mistake is<br>
mine.<br>
<br>
As such, we currently have two options and they are:-<br>
<br>
Option 1<br>
Accept from the votes that all the proposals have failed based on the<br>
results of the votes.<br>
<br>
Option 2<br>
Re-run the votes<br>
<br>
<br>
If we take Option 2, we run the risk of setting a precedent for extending<br>
voting periods for other things that require voting including coordinator<br>
elections. Should we consider the current votes invalid and cast fresh votes<br>
or extend the votes.<br>
<br>
In any event, the current revisions to the Charter that are on the website<br>
will be reversed to reflect what it originally was.<br>
<br>
For the sake of completeness, the record of the votes is as follows:<br>
<br>
76 responses were submitted, though some respondents did not answer all<br>
questions, as none of them were compulsory.<br>
<br>
On proposal 1, 70 voted in favour, 4 against, and 2 did not vote.<br>
On proposal 2, 62 voted in favour, 5 against, and 9 did not vote.<br>
On proposal 3, 71 voted in favour, 2 against, and 3 did not vote.<br>
On proposal 4, 65 voted in favour, 3 against, and 8 did not vote.<br>
<br>
Thank you and Kind Regards,<br>
Sala<br>
<br>
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Sala, are you sure?<br>
<br>
The charter amendment process states that it is 2/3 of membership required<br>
for charter amendments, not 2/3 of those who bothered to vote. My<br>
understanding is that none of the votes result in charter amendments,<br>
because none of them had over 2/3 of members supporting. The relevant<br>
charter quote is below.<br>
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Amendments to the Charter<br>
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This charter can be amended at any time as proposed by no fewer than ten<br>
(10) members and as approved by no less than two-thirds (2/3) of the members<br>
of the IGC. The membership requirements for amending the charter are based<br>
on the most currently available voters list. In amending the charter,<br>
everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for<br>
amending the charter.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
(perhaps it should be different but it isn’t on my reading)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Ian Peter<br>
<br>
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From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:11 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
Subject: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll<br>
<br>
Dear All,<br>
<br>
Greetings! This is a brief update on the results of the IGC Charter<br>
Amendment Poll. Here are the results:<br>
<br>
76 responses were submitted, though some respondents did not answer all<br>
questions, as none of them were compulsory.<br>
<br>
On proposal 1, 70 voted in favour, 4 against, and 2 did not vote.<br>
On proposal 2, 62 voted in favour, 5 against, and 9 did not vote.<br>
On proposal 3, 71 voted in favour, 2 against, and 3 did not vote.<br>
On proposal 4, 65 voted in favour, 3 against, and 8 did not vote.<br>
<br>
This means that all proposals pass with greater than 80% approval, which<br>
is excess of the 2/3 requirement. The text of the amendments is found at<br>
<a href="http://igcaucus.org/formally-proposed-charter-amendments" target="_blank">http://igcaucus.org/formally-proposed-charter-amendments</a> and the charter as<br>
amended is at <a href="http://igcaucus.org/charter" target="_blank">http://igcaucus.org/charter</a> and<br>
<a href="http://igcaucus.org/nomcom-process" target="_blank">http://igcaucus.org/nomcom-process</a>.<br>
<br>
I would also like to acknowledge and thank you all for your contributions,<br>
elaborate discussion and for taking the time to vote. Thank you to all those<br>
who proposed the amendments and initiated the process and to all those who<br>
took part. Special thanks also to Norbert for conducting the Poll and to<br>
Jeremy for helping out.<br>
<br>
With Kind Regards,<br>
Sala (on behalf of the Coordinators)<br>
<br>
<br>
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