[governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll

Fouad Bajwa fouadbajwa at gmail.com
Sat Feb 16 14:44:23 EST 2013 

IGC can do a quick round of wake-up and vote call! JaaGo and Vote
(means wakeup and vote in my language) for those that have yet not
voted at all. Since the numbers for all those that voted is there, one
can do the match with the confirmed membership list. Anyways, I
support Ian's recommendation....JaaGo!

best

Fouad

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
> sorry if my last message wasn't clear - I am in favour of counting the
> existing votes as valid, and just looking to boost the numbers of votes
> count, rather than running the whole process again.
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Peake
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 6:27 AM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; Ian Peter
> Cc: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll
>
> Agree it would be helpful to know how many votes.
>
> But before re-doing the vote (how many times, until 'we' get the
> result we want?), could we have the amendments presented again.  With
> time for discussion, and then see if again there is support to hold a
> vote.
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sala,
>>
>> How many votes short are we of a positive result?
>>
>> That would determine perhaps the best way to go.
>>
>> In this case I dont think there is any great risk in re-opening the vote
>> to
>> get extra responses. The results in each ballot are clearly in favour of
>> the
>> reforms, the will of the caucus seems clear, it’s just a technicality that
>> we have not had enough responses. (I would feel differently if on any of
>> the
>> ballots the no votes were roughly equivalent to the yes votes)
>>
>> So I would suggest re-opening the ballot to allow those who havent voted
>> to
>> do so – accompanied by encouragement and reminders.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:17 PM
>> To: Ian Peter
>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll
>>
>> Dear Ian and All,
>>
>> You are correct. I apologize to the IGC for the oversight, the mistake is
>> mine.
>>
>> As such, we currently have two options and they are:-
>>
>> Option 1
>> Accept from the votes that all the proposals have failed based on the
>> results of the votes.
>>
>> Option 2
>> Re-run the votes
>>
>>
>> If we take Option 2, we run the risk of setting a precedent for extending
>> voting periods for other things that require voting including coordinator
>> elections. Should we consider the current votes invalid and cast fresh
>> votes
>> or extend the votes.
>>
>> In any event, the current revisions to the Charter that are on the website
>> will be reversed to reflect what it originally was.
>>
>> For the sake of completeness, the record of the votes is as follows:
>>
>> 76 responses were submitted, though some respondents did not answer all
>> questions, as none of them were compulsory.
>>
>> On proposal 1, 70 voted in favour, 4 against, and 2 did not vote.
>> On proposal 2, 62 voted in favour, 5 against, and 9 did not vote.
>> On proposal 3, 71 voted in favour, 2 against, and 3 did not vote.
>> On proposal 4, 65 voted in favour, 3 against, and 8 did not vote.
>>
>> Thank you and Kind Regards,
>> Sala
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sala, are you sure?
>>>
>>> The charter amendment process states that it is 2/3 of membership
>>> required
>>> for charter amendments, not 2/3 of those who bothered to vote. My
>>> understanding is that none of the votes result in charter amendments,
>>> because none of them had over 2/3 of members supporting. The relevant
>>> charter quote is below.
>>>
>>>
>>> Amendments to the Charter
>>>
>>> This charter can be amended at any time as proposed by no fewer than ten
>>> (10) members and as approved by no less than two-thirds (2/3) of the
>>> members
>>> of the IGC. The membership requirements for amending the charter are
>>> based
>>> on the most currently available voters list. In amending the charter,
>>> everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for
>>> amending the charter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (perhaps it should be different but it isn’t on my reading)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:11 AM
>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>> Subject: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Greetings! This is a brief update on the results of the IGC Charter
>>> Amendment Poll. Here are the results:
>>>
>>> 76 responses were submitted, though some respondents did not answer all
>>> questions, as none of them were compulsory.
>>>
>>> On proposal 1, 70 voted in favour, 4 against, and 2 did not vote.
>>> On proposal 2, 62 voted in favour, 5 against, and 9 did not vote.
>>> On proposal 3, 71 voted in favour, 2 against, and 3 did not vote.
>>> On proposal 4, 65 voted in favour, 3 against, and 8 did not vote.
>>>
>>> This means that all proposals pass with greater than 80% approval, which
>>> is excess of the 2/3 requirement.  The text of the amendments is found at
>>> http://igcaucus.org/formally-proposed-charter-amendments and the charter
>>> as
>>> amended is at http://igcaucus.org/charter and
>>> http://igcaucus.org/nomcom-process.
>>>
>>> I would also like to acknowledge and thank you all for your
>>> contributions,
>>> elaborate discussion and for taking the time to vote. Thank you to all
>>> those
>>> who proposed the amendments and initiated the process and to all those
>>> who
>>> took part. Special thanks also to Norbert for conducting the Poll and to
>>> Jeremy for helping out.
>>>
>>> With Kind Regards,
>>> Sala (on behalf of the Coordinators)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
>>> P.O. Box 17862
>>> Suva
>>> Fiji
>>>
>>> Twitter: @SalanietaT
>>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro
>>> Tel: +679 3544828
>>> Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851
>>>
>>>
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>> Fiji
>>
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