[governance] Brazil, WSIS 10+ and ITU

[michael gurstein]

I, we would support a big tent/inclusive event like that although for
practical/logistics reasons I would see it as something more directly linked
in time and place with the Brazil event (i.e. in Sao Paulo at the end of
April) 

 

I’d also see what we could do to get local Brazil Community Informatics
folks involved in organizing/supporting.

 

M

 

From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Deirdre Williams
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:42 PM
To: Internet Governance; Jeanette Hofmann
Subject: Re: [governance] Brazil, WSIS 10+ and ITU

 

I agree with Jeanette.

I would even go a little further.

Why don't "we" - civil society - have a "meeting" too?

I know we don't have funds to take people to Brazil or London or wherever,
but we do have the Internet which we keep advocating as a potential solution
to that type of challenge. 

We could stipulate a time (say the third week in January - from 19th). We
must have someone - techier than I am - who can create a space?? We could
publish a list of issues - which could be added to - and the conclusions
reached so far by the people who have been considering those issues up to
now. We could invite everyone who would like to come and participate. 

We could spend the selected week in intensive discussion to tease out a
summary of our collective approach to the issues under discussion to give to
whoever will finally "represent" us at these other meetings. If we find we
can't agree we should at least have a clear idea of where we differ. 

Deirdre

 

On 27 December 2013 09:27, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu> wrote:



Am 27.12.13 11:38, schrieb "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang":

 

Hi everybody

I would prefer on this list a discussion on substance and the
concrete CS contribution to the two envisaged outcome documents for
the meeting in Brazil: 1. a declaration of principles and 2. a road
map/plan of action. It is not a secondary issue how CS channels its
ideas into the process, and we should be represented in a proper way
in all committees respecting the special responsibilities of the
local organizers. However, substance comes first and if we want to
have a seat on the table, we have to demonstrate that we make
substantial contributions and come with new, fresh, fair and workable
ideas how to enhance and improve the IG processes in 2014 an beyond
in the intersts of individual users based on our commitmenet to human
rights and development.

Since there seem to be several people who are tired of these big-ego
cultivating exchanges on this list, we could actually try to work on the
Andrew's compilation of contributions which he circulated on Dec 13.
(subject line: input into Brazil summit). There has been no substantive
response to this as far as I am aware of.

The amount of text is a bit daunting and not easy to handle for a mailing
list. One way to go about this would be to decide with which section we want
to start and have someone drafting a shorter text out of all answers. My
suggestion would be to start with questions 3:

What is the case for reform of these arrangements and on what grounds
(better protection of human rights and democracy, better representation from
global south etc)
and 4:
What existing proposals for reform are you aware of and how do they meet the
criteria for reform you set out in the previous question

jeanette


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