[governance] [bestbits] Call to Best Bits participants for nominations to Brazil meeting committees

David Cake dave at difference.com.au
Thu Dec 26 01:23:39 EST 2013


MIchael, this is a deeply faulty analogy. 
No one is arguing that minority views should not be part of the 'civil society' club. Only that those selected as representatives of civil society are willing to act as representatives of the various diverging views of civil society - to use your analogy, that those selected to represent the club are willing to represent more than their own small clique among its members. 

If you honestly believe that we should select representatives of civil society who intend only to represent their small fraction - not only does this baffle me as a strategy, but I am quite baffled as to why those representatives would be listened to by anyone. 
	
Regards

David

On 25 Dec 2013, at 6:42 am, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

> And since others from the "Civil Society Coordinating Committee" have peddling this line in this venue as well...
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 5:36 AM
> To: 'Avri Doria'; 'Bits bestbits at lists.bestbits.net'
> Subject: RE: [bestbits] Call to Best Bits participants for nominations to Brazil meeting committees
> 
> In England, where I spent some idle years pursuing an education they had a term--"clubbable"--what it meant was, whether you were suitable to be asked to "join the club"... 
> 
> Now among the overt criteria for being "clubbable" was of course, whether you were "nice" enough, whether you would fit in with the existing members, make them feel comfortable and all warm and cozy at and in your presence.
> 
> Of course what that really meant was whether you were sufficiently "like us" for them to let you into the club... whether you were the right colour, or the right gender, had gone to the right schools, were of an appropriate religion, and of course, overall whether your "politics/value system" would be such as to support the "club's" status quo--their perq's and privileges, folkways and prejudices...
> 
> Needless to say I was never "invited".
> 
> But I have to ask here, are you folks really serious about this--having as a criteria for joining a "Coordinating Committee" of "Civil Society" whether someone adheres to kindergarten rules of playing "nice"... 
> 
> If that is so then surely any right minded person would treat this self-selected grouping and this process with the contempt and derision it deserves.
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:24 PM
> To: Bits bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> Subject: Re: [bestbits] Call to Best Bits participants for nominations to Brazil meeting committees
> 
> [MG>] snipped...
> 
> So sure put in the criterion of including minority viewpoints, but also put in the criterion of "plays well with others."
> 
> avri
> 
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