[governance] Re: [bestbits] HLLM in LOndon - CS reps

Marilia Maciel mariliamaciel at gmail.com
Mon Dec 9 07:48:24 EST 2013 

Hello all,

It is positive that they include experts like Bill. If someone knows if
there will be other experts and facilitators and who are they, it would be
great to have this information.

It is pretty disappointing that we have no certainty that the two names
appointed by CS will be included, and also that neither will be included
before London. It would be sensitive to have them there, at least as
observers.

I believe that whoever is able to be present from CS could raise a couple
points about the procedures that HL should adopt to increase transparency.
It does not matter that this is an ICANN initiative, the importance of the
topic and the fact that this is an issue of interest to the whole community
justify the request for transparency. Some points that come to my mind are:

- the agenda of the HL panel meetings should be publicized in advance
- channels to receive inputs (procedural or substantive) should be created
or clarified
- their meetings should be open to observers (like the meetings of the CSTD
ECWG)
- Reports of the meetings should be published. They could follow Chatam
House rules

Best wishes!
Marília




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>wrote:

> I can't think of a better choice.
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> > On 09-Dec-2013, at 15:38, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill.
> >
> > Thanks for letting us know.  Good to know you'll be involved -- hope it
> goes well and please keep us informed.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:57 PM, William Drake wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I’ve mentioned this to a couple people privately and should probably
> state publicly as well that I will be participating in the High Level Panel
> process as an “expert” advisor, e.g. in London I’ll be giving a talk about
> the nature of IG, running a break out session, etc.  I believe there may be
> a couple other people from other SGs similarly appointed, TBC.  I don’t
> know how they intend to deal with the request for a CS “representative”
> panel member, but understand nothing will happen in time for the London
> meeting.
> >>
> >> I have suggested publicly announcing the agenda and providing options
> for people to provide written inputs, we’ll see what happens.  The London
> meeting is in four days and there’s a lot late rushing around to pull it
> together, so it’s a bit difficult to predict exactly how everything will
> play out.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> **********************************************************
> >> William J. Drake
> >> International Fellow & Lecturer
> >>  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
> >>  University of Zurich, Switzerland
> >> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
> >>  ICANN, www.ncuc.org
> >> william.drake at uzh.ch (w), wjdrake at gmail.com (h),
> >>  www.williamdrake.org
> >> ***********************************************************
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 9, 2013, at 3:27 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:34 PM, McTim wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> cc list trimmed to only one list.
> >>>>
> >>>> /transcript-president-opening-18nov13-en.pdf
> >>>>
> >>>> "USC, University of Southern California-Annenberg Foundation as well
> >>>> as the World Economic Forum, the WEF, have partnered with us so we
> >>>> ensure that this panel has some level of independency and is
> functioning
> >>>> on a broader scale globally"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> WEF <
> http://www.weforum.org/content/global-agenda-council-future-internet-2012-2014
> >
> >>>
> >>> Adam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:49 PM, michael gurstein <
> gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks for this Ian, could someone please explain to me what is
> meant by
> >>>>> this fifth panel as more independent (in partnership with two other
> >>>>> organizations.. Is he referring to Inet here? Who are the other two
> >>>>> organizations?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> M
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
> >>>>> [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] On Behalf Of Ian Peter
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:34 AM
> >>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Adam Peake
> >>>>> Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: [bestbits] HLLM in LOndon - CS reps
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Adam,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Because it would be inappropriate I am deliberately not taking on a
>  role of
> >>>>> coordinating back to various networks as that is what the various
> reps
> >>>>> should do. But here is the reply from Fadi to Robin (copied to the
> reps
> >>>>> earlier).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Robin,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope you had a good thanksgiving holiday. I took several days off
> and
> >>>>> regained a lot of energy after our busy week in Buenos Aires. I just
> got
> >>>>> back and ready for the next phase of work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As I noted below and in Buenos Aires, we were never in a position to
> grow
> >>>>> the panel any further. In BA, however, after the panel was
> announced, we
> >>>>> made a final commitment to add only one panelist from the cc
> community, and
> >>>>> only one more from civil society -- understanding the need for
> broader
> >>>>> participation. Byron Holland from the cc community agreed to serve
> while in
> >>>>> Buenos Aires.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At this stage, and now that we have established this fifth panel as
> more
> >>>>> independent (in partnership with two other organizations), I will
> need to
> >>>>> confer with our partners on your request, as well as with the
> Chairman of
> >>>>> the panel. I predict that they will be sensitive to diversity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I cannot meet with the chairman until next week on Wednesday. I will
> keep
> >>>>> you posted. It may be a little late for London but rest assured that
> Frank
> >>>>> La Rue, Lynn St. Amour, and myself will have our communities
> interests very
> >>>>> vigilantly on top of our agendas.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fadi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Adam Peake
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:03 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To: Ian Peter
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Subject: [governance] Re: [bestbits] HLLM in LOndon - CS reps
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Ian,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any reply to the CS coalition's recommendations?  The high level
> panel is
> >>>>> due to meet December 12-13 (London), a week from now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adam
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 30, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Ian Peter wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Please find a letter just send to Fadi Chehade under my signatory as
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> an independent facilitator as regards civil society representation
> at
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> this meeting in two weeks time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Let me be the first to admit the process was imperfect, the result
> was
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> imperfect. But so was the task we were given, the timeframe,  the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> people involved in making the decision, and the facilitation
> process.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I can only say that there was widespread agreement we should submit
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> names, and for the names submitted. And that doing and saying
> nothing
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> would have been the alternative in this timeframe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ian Peter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 29 November 2013
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> RE: Civil Society Representation on High Level Panel in London
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear Fadi and Nora:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I am writing to you following from discussions held by a coalition
> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> representatives of the civil society networks most involved in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Internet governance deliberations, we appreciate your willingness to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> engage civil society in discussions regarding the future of Internet
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> governance. We also appreciate your recognition that civil society
> is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> under-represented on your High Level Panel and your willingness to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> accept additional civil society participants to this panel to
> provide
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> more balance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> After consultations with our networks, we propose adding the
> following
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 2 civil society representatives to begin to balance against the much
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> larger numbers from government, the private sector, and technical
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> representatives placed on the initial panel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Civil society’s two nominated representatives for the London High
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Level Panel are:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. Anriette Esterhuysen (anriette at apc.org) 2. Milton Mueller
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> (mueller at syr.edu) Would you please kindly confirm your acceptance
> of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> these names, and contact our representatives directly to arrange
> their
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> participation?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We also strongly recommend the involvement of Jovan Kurbalija of the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Diplo Foundation as a highly experienced and knowledgeable
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> facilitator.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We trust that in future we will be able to look at much more
> equitable
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> representation of civil society in such panels and committees.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Persons involved with these deliberations and choice of names from
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> various civil society networks were:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Virginia Paque, Diplo Foundation
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Anriette Esterhuysen, Association for Progressive Communications
> (APC)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Robin Gross, ICANN's Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)
> Norbert
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Bollow and Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro, Internet Governance Caucus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> (IGC)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ian Peter, Independent Facilitator
> >>
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*Marília Maciel*
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Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio

Researcher and Coordinator
Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
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