[governance] Re: [bestbits] HLLM in LOndon - CS reps

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Mon Dec 9 05:40:58 EST 2013


I can't think of a better choice.  

--srs (iPad)

> On 09-Dec-2013, at 15:38, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill.
> 
> Thanks for letting us know.  Good to know you'll be involved -- hope it goes well and please keep us informed. 
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:57 PM, William Drake wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> I’ve mentioned this to a couple people privately and should probably state publicly as well that I will be participating in the High Level Panel process as an “expert” advisor, e.g. in London I’ll be giving a talk about the nature of IG, running a break out session, etc.  I believe there may be a couple other people from other SGs similarly appointed, TBC.  I don’t know how they intend to deal with the request for a CS “representative” panel member, but understand nothing will happen in time for the London meeting.
>> 
>> I have suggested publicly announcing the agenda and providing options for people to provide written inputs, we’ll see what happens.  The London meeting is in four days and there’s a lot late rushing around to pull it together, so it’s a bit difficult to predict exactly how everything will play out.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> **********************************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>  University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, 
>>  ICANN, www.ncuc.org
>> william.drake at uzh.ch (w), wjdrake at gmail.com (h),
>>  www.williamdrake.org
>> ***********************************************************
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2013, at 3:27 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:34 PM, McTim wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> cc list trimmed to only one list.
>>>> 
>>>> /transcript-president-opening-18nov13-en.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> "USC, University of Southern California-Annenberg Foundation as well
>>>> as the World Economic Forum, the WEF, have partnered with us so we
>>>> ensure that this panel has some level of independency and is functioning
>>>> on a broader scale globally"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> WEF <http://www.weforum.org/content/global-agenda-council-future-internet-2012-2014>
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:49 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for this Ian, could someone please explain to me what is meant by
>>>>> this fifth panel as more independent (in partnership with two other
>>>>> organizations.. Is he referring to Inet here? Who are the other two
>>>>> organizations?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> M
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>> [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] On Behalf Of Ian Peter
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:34 AM
>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Adam Peake
>>>>> Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: [bestbits] HLLM in LOndon - CS reps
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because it would be inappropriate I am deliberately not taking on a  role of
>>>>> coordinating back to various networks as that is what the various reps
>>>>> should do. But here is the reply from Fadi to Robin (copied to the reps
>>>>> earlier).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Robin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope you had a good thanksgiving holiday. I took several days off and
>>>>> regained a lot of energy after our busy week in Buenos Aires. I just got
>>>>> back and ready for the next phase of work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I noted below and in Buenos Aires, we were never in a position to grow
>>>>> the panel any further. In BA, however, after the panel was announced, we
>>>>> made a final commitment to add only one panelist from the cc community, and
>>>>> only one more from civil society -- understanding the need for broader
>>>>> participation. Byron Holland from the cc community agreed to serve while in
>>>>> Buenos Aires.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this stage, and now that we have established this fifth panel as more
>>>>> independent (in partnership with two other organizations), I will need to
>>>>> confer with our partners on your request, as well as with the Chairman of
>>>>> the panel. I predict that they will be sensitive to diversity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I cannot meet with the chairman until next week on Wednesday. I will keep
>>>>> you posted. It may be a little late for London but rest assured that Frank
>>>>> La Rue, Lynn St. Amour, and myself will have our communities interests very
>>>>> vigilantly on top of our agendas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fadi
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Adam Peake
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:03 PM
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: Ian Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: [governance] Re: [bestbits] HLLM in LOndon - CS reps
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any reply to the CS coalition's recommendations?  The high level panel is
>>>>> due to meet December 12-13 (London), a week from now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Ian Peter wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please find a letter just send to Fadi Chehade under my signatory as
>>>>> 
>>>>>> an independent facilitator as regards civil society representation at
>>>>> 
>>>>>> this meeting in two weeks time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Let me be the first to admit the process was imperfect, the result was
>>>>> 
>>>>>> imperfect. But so was the task we were given, the timeframe,  the
>>>>> 
>>>>>> people involved in making the decision, and the facilitation process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can only say that there was widespread agreement we should submit
>>>>> 
>>>>>> names, and for the names submitted. And that doing and saying nothing
>>>>> 
>>>>>> would have been the alternative in this timeframe.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ian Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 29 November 2013
>>>>> 
>>>>>> RE: Civil Society Representation on High Level Panel in London
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Fadi and Nora:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am writing to you following from discussions held by a coalition of
>>>>> 
>>>>>> representatives of the civil society networks most involved in
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Internet governance deliberations, we appreciate your willingness to
>>>>> 
>>>>>> engage civil society in discussions regarding the future of Internet
>>>>> 
>>>>>> governance. We also appreciate your recognition that civil society is
>>>>> 
>>>>>> under-represented on your High Level Panel and your willingness to
>>>>> 
>>>>>> accept additional civil society participants to this panel to provide
>>>>> 
>>>>>> more balance.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> After consultations with our networks, we propose adding the following
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2 civil society representatives to begin to balance against the much
>>>>> 
>>>>>> larger numbers from government, the private sector, and technical
>>>>> 
>>>>>> representatives placed on the initial panel.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Civil society’s two nominated representatives for the London High
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Level Panel are:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Anriette Esterhuysen (anriette at apc.org) 2. Milton Mueller
>>>>> 
>>>>>> (mueller at syr.edu) Would you please kindly confirm your acceptance of
>>>>> 
>>>>>> these names, and contact our representatives directly to arrange their
>>>>> 
>>>>>> participation?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> We also strongly recommend the involvement of Jovan Kurbalija of the
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Diplo Foundation as a highly experienced and knowledgeable
>>>>> 
>>>>>> facilitator.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> We trust that in future we will be able to look at much more equitable
>>>>> 
>>>>>> representation of civil society in such panels and committees.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Persons involved with these deliberations and choice of names from
>>>>> 
>>>>>> various civil society networks were:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Virginia Paque, Diplo Foundation
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anriette Esterhuysen, Association for Progressive Communications (APC)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Robin Gross, ICANN's Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) Norbert
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bollow and Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro, Internet Governance Caucus
>>>>> 
>>>>>> (IGC)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Signed,
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ian Peter, Independent Facilitator
>> 
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