[governance] On "ad hominem" and "twisting words"
Norbert Bollow
nb at bollow.ch
Sat Aug 10 20:50:18 EDT 2013
+1 to Daniel Pimienta's points.
Greetings,
Norbert
Am Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:10:31 -0400
schrieb Daniel Pimienta <pimienta at funredes.org>:
> For the sake of balancing the growing counter of
> +1 on Bertand's mail and preventing a group to
> find unanimously the perfect guilty for the
> turmoil on the communication flow during the last
> months in this forum, I would like to express a -1 on Bertand's mail.
>
> First of all, the process of slow deterioration
> of the good spirit is NOT the product of one
> person expression but the result of an
> interaction with other person’s expression and I
> do not think I have to offer names, if your
> memory of the co-co's actions is neat.
>
> Second, and much more important, what is at stake
> behind this situation is NOT a mere question of
> people style; in the background, there is a
> profound issue of the role of civil society in Internet Governance.
>
> I consider myself that a good provision of
> "constructive provocation" is an intrinsic part
> of my civil society role and I have been worried
> for years in this forum to perceive a clear trend
> of anesthesia of the discourse of civil society,
> for the sake of allowing multistakeholderism to
> perform smoothly. I have been (and I am still)
> quite worried that this trend will not transform
> us (organized civil society) in the unwilling
> accomplices of many bad actions performed in our field.
>
> It is enough to see the sweetness of the IGF
> statements in situation like PRISM, compared to
> other groups, to assess this point.
>
> The main reason I am more a lurker than a
> contributor in this forum is to be found there
> (and not in the fact that some discussion get
> heated). The main reason why Funredes has
> resigned recently from APC membership (without
> loosing respect and good relationships) is also
> to be found here (my analysis is that the price
> to pay in silencing and smoothing our critics has gotten too high).
>
> Is it not a risky game to accept to be so polite
> that we loose our soul; shall we resist to such
> level of politeness? I tend to answer yes at the
> light of the evolution of the Internet.
>
> What is at stake here and the fractures which are
> underlying are not details of Internet history
> and too much naivety may turned to become a crime
> against virtual humanity; the role of ICANN, the
> need to see the historical grab of US in Internet
> governance evolve, the appropriate balance of
> security and privacy, the implication of the
> dominant economical model that –mainly- Google
> has imposed based uniquely in advertisements and
> the terrible consequences in our privacy and
> comfort which are hardly evocated here, the
> difficulty of the requirements on multilingualism
> to get accepted in spite of a more accommodating discourse...
>
> When in last IGF meeting, in Baku, I felt the
> role of civil society was starting to blur and I
> got quite worried to see ICANN implementing a
> totally artificial (and super expensive)
> economical model for domain names and the
> appearing passivity of my civil society
> colleagues. Our proactivity and capacity to
> resist seemed to have decline so much.
>
> As a mental reaction, I develop a cartoon in my
> mind that I resisted to share at that time (in
> order to keep polite and avoid embarrassing my
> civil society colleagues) but I will now as a
> reaction against the attempt to definitively shut up provocation.
>
> I will, not only for this episode of apparent
> consensus against one of the more provocative
> civil society voice of this forum, but also
> because I have been so disappointed that the
> opportunity of the moment when the Balis's
> meeting was jeopardized was not used to ask the
> real questions for this group but instead to
> demonstrate the typical homeostasis syndrome of
> groups who must keep existing the same way just
> because they have existed so far).
>
> The cartoon is based on the Arab proverb that is
> quite famous: the dogs bark and the caravan
> passes (the trigger may habe been a wonderful
> restaurant in the old town named Caravanseray :-)).
>
> Imagine a long road heading to a big tower of
> dollars, not so far away in the perspective.
> Imagine a caravan named ICANN. Imagine a bunch of
> dogs marked IGF which are barking between them
> and around the caravan. Imagine the caravan does
> not care at all and keep passing towards the big money...
> We can also use the image with US government in
> the caravan and PRISM at the end of the road.
>
> Sorry if my words will disturb many of you but it
> feels so good to be provocative again. :-)
>
>
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