[governance] abuse by the coordinator

[michael gurstein]

Milton of course has a long long history of over the top ad hominems,
personal attacks, collective attacks etc.etc.  

Most of the time folks just shrug it off as Milton being Milton doing
Miltonisms... Yes, for those new to the list, we on the IGC even have a
(semi-affectionate/semi-derisive) name for them... 

Sometimes people object and react and the behaviours disappear for a while
only to reimerge in later perhaps less guarded moments. And of course, he is
a very valuable member of the discussion when he moderates his rhetoric and
he clearly isn't a troll interfering with the flow of the discussion as some
whose name we won't mention but whose absence has allowed for useful
discussion to reemerge on this list.

It is a wee bit po-faced for Milton to respond as though the admonition from
the co-coordinator had to with his useful if contentious attack appended to
the co-coordinator's message rather than to his earlier Miltonisms in
responding in an over the top manner to Parminder's contributions concerning
the definition issues (I believe it was...

M

-----Original Message-----
From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Lee W McKnight
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:01 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; McTim; Milton L Mueller
Subject: RE: [governance] abuse by the coordinator

Hi,

As everyone just saw, Milton's advocacy for one position did not stop me
from posting a different view. Hence Milton's expression demonstrably did
not stop the ongoing list discussion. 

On the other hand, achieving the right balance of -coordinating - an IGC
discussion; and asserting/inserting one's own views, is frankly something
the current co-co's are still learning.  In my my ever-humble opinion. (And
of course I hope no offense is taken Norbert, since none is meant.)

Personally, rather than elevating all this in to yet another instance of the
IGC list discussion meandering into one more endless internal process
discussion, I hope Norbert and Milton agree to virtually shake hands and say
oops never mind.

And then we can get back to our regularly scheduled random discussions.

Hey I can dream right? : )

Lee
________________________________________
From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org
[governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of McTim
[dogwallah at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:38 AM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller
Subject: Re: [governance] abuse by the coordinator

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
> Dear colleagues:
> I forward this message to the list so that you can see your coordinator in
action.

<snip>

> This is an attempt to suppress discussion. It is Norbert who is acting as
the bully here. This is unacceptable. I call upon members of this list to
protest this arbitrary and biased action.


Agreed it is an unacceptable attempt to suppress a valid perspective.

I note this is not the first instance of this in the last month or so.

I am happy to protest.


Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel




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