[governance] US House Bill to Affirm the Policy of the United States Regarding Internet Governance

[Riaz K Tayob]

Fwiw, the best part is the disclaimer - healthy doubt :P , :)

I will read these asap.

But to engage.

What would go some ways to ameliorate the concerns of Parminder, 
Gurstein, (just to pick on them) etc?

At a high level of abstraction, there is opposition to the bill, perhaps 
on political economy terms. Yet at a lower level of abstraction, many 
things are possible (setting aside the legitimacy issue - to interrogate 
issues). Including transparency; which may be insufficient for others.

We can in parallel continue to debate over reform and radical positions, 
principled vs more pragmatic (not implying unprincipled), etc but that 
is seperate from these inquiries. Playing in the other pen, so to speak.

What interests me in particular is what "vision" of/for change does this 
evoke at the lower level of abstraction? I get it that those intimate 
and familiar with the system can see some equation that gives cause for 
optimism. As positioned as I am, I cannot really get it because of my 
blinkers. If I try harder, what I would be interested in is how 
subsequent change (from what will follow this bill) will be dealt with 
and regulated. If it includes a broad range of possibilities for 
increased CIR internationalisation (different from he McTim and Mueller 
vision of internationalisation), or even stated in the negative, that it 
does not explicitly preclude such evolution, it may be more palatable. 
So, I am interested in the 'laws of motion' based on the institutional 
framework you see currently /and /how it can evolve.

And I value your views and this is not some trick etc. It is an attempt 
to get a real appreciation of what fecundity there is in the 
population/ensemble for dynamism...

Riaz





On 2013/04/18 06:54 PM, John Curran wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com 
> <mailto:riaz.tayob at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Thesi*s: The Bill is good for IG.*
>>
>> (I am NOT the best person to make the case!!)
>>
>> It establishes a policy in legislation ensuring MS.
>>
>> It includes preservation as well as advancement - it incorporates the 
>> possibility of future change.
>
> Riaz - I'll try and make the case, but probably not as you expect...
>
> FYI - Two articles about this bill from RollCall (a publication 
> covering US legislative events) -
>
>   
> <http://www.rollcall.com/news/an_internet_almost_free_from_government_control-224101-1.html>
>   
> <http://www.rollcall.com/news/who_really_runs_the_internet-224102-1.html>
>
> (and one of the articles quotes the esteemed Milton Mueller...)
>
> I believe that fact-based dialogue is generally good, and to the 
> extent that this bill helps everyone
> gain a better understanding of the present reality, it is helpful to 
> the cause of Internet Governance.
> For those in US government, it has made plain that the 
> multistakeholder model is very important
> and should be supported, while also highlighting the unique USG(NTIA)/ 
> ICANN relationship (which
> has not been well known or understood by some in the USG.)  For those 
> advocating change in the
> Internet Governance framework to one which is "free of government 
> control", the removal of that
> phrase is a readily referencable event as evidence of concerns with 
> the present system.
>
> Improved visibility into the present system is a win in any case.
>
> FYI,
> /John
>
> Disclaimers:  My views alone.  To the best of my knowledge, this email 
> was prepared in a manner
>                     "free of government control"

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