[governance] Google's officer with detention order in brasil

[Riaz K Tayob]

Adequately chastised, you did not say that. Perhaps let me be more 
precise and make my point based on deductions of what I see as the 
positions expressed

... If freedom for corporations, like Google,  is important in 
developing countries then should the same standard not apply to CIR and 
other issues in the US? If so, then why is the systemic issue of 
Internet Governance not factored in (high or low) in order to inform the 
overall perspective?

I am not against the Human Rights argument (actually with the crisis 
these seem to be more needed now in developing countries) but the 
framing of the arguments regarding countries needs to be more evenly 
applied.


On 2012/09/29 08:18 PM, Sivasubramanian M wrote:
>
> On Sep 29, 2012 6:28 PM, "Riaz K Tayob" <riaz.tayob at gmail.com 
> <mailto:riaz.tayob at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > The issue below can also be framed with less simplicity... there is 
> an intersection of self-interest and public interest... by seeing it 
> only one way, we may miss important aspects of the case, including the 
> fact that human rights are essentially litigated mainly by 
> corporations asserting rights rather than natural persons... after 
> Citizens United decision in the US, many ought to give this framing 
> some more consideration as it may be too simple...
> >
> > On your latter point, are you opting for the easy route of 
> unilateral US control? You may as well be explicit...
> >
>
> What did I say that has this to do with 'unilateral control? I said 
> Corporations like Google ought to be concerned about the long term 
> implications of the easy approach (of saying yes to every Government 
> directive that interferes with Civil liberties) The other path (of 
> legitimate and fair challenges to unfair directives) would be 
> difficult, but a responsible thing to do.
>
> And I also said that the Internet Corporations might need help and 
> support from users in such a defense :-)
>
> >
> >
> > On 2012/09/28 07:59 PM, Sivasubramanian M wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, we need to see this as Google defending freedom of expression. 
> It would be irresponsible on the part of a large, global Internet 
> corporation as Google to submit to every directive by every Government 
> organ from everywhere, without concern for the long term implications 
> of such an easy approach for the Internet.
> >
> >
>

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