[governance] ICT4Change participating in ICANN & response

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Wed Sep 12 18:25:04 EDT 2012 

It is excellent that they commented and also within the Comment Period. I
hope that there are others who have raised concerns also engage the systems
by making submissions etc.

This is similar to discussions we were having on the TPP here as people
were meeting in Virginia, US in the 14th round of negotiations etc. The
email which had the subject line "Brainstorming" is designed to gather
feedback on primarily 3 things:-


   - Which model should we select;
   - Which Policy areas are of interest;
   - Enlisting of people to populate and lead the Working Groups.

Whilst it is one thing to be involved in the CSTD, appoint suitable
candidates for MAG, host workshops at the IGFs but we need to create
sustainable systems where we can advocate and address issues better than
just reacting.

Best Regards,
Sala

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> wrote:

> But it is out of scope, irrelevant, or am I wrong?
>
> ...,...
>
> On 12 Sep 2012, at 10:07 PM, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <
> apisan at unam.mx> wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>
>  I'm glad to see IT4Change decided to submit a comment on new gTLD
> strings along the lines they had previously discussed here. Kudos to
> Parminder for becoming a participant.
>
>  There is a response to it in
> https://community.icann.org/display/newgtldrg/multiple-strings-by-IT-for-change_OG <https://community.icann.org/display/newgtldrg/multiple-strings-by-IT-for-change_OG>
>
>  "Evan Leibovitch <https://community.icann.org/display/~evan.leibovitch>
>
> On a personal level, I am extremely sympathetic to, and agree with many
> of, the concerns expressed in the objection by "IT for Change". I could
> easily see myself advocating for its policy goals. However, given the
> current process it is extremely doubtful that this objection is in scope,
> and it contains some factual errors in its assumptions:
>
> Most specifically, this gTLD expansion program does not mark the
> introduction of strings longer than three characters, but is rather a
> massive expansion of an existing program. The group did not seem to have a
> problem with the existing use of ".aero", ".name" and ".museum", therefore
> the principle of objecting to all strings longer than three characters has
> long been mooted. The relative failure to date of three-letter TLDs such as
> ".pro" and ".biz" indicate that three-letter TLDs did not provide the level
> of domain expansion/relief that appears to be sought.
>
> Furthermore, this objection appears not to be against any single
> application but indeed against all applications for strings that are
> dictionary words or longer than three characters. This is far too broad an
> objection to be applicable for the ALAC-driven review process; indeed, it
> indicates an objection to policy as opposed to any specific application.
> While I share the concerns and have expressed many myself, the ability to
> affect gTLD expansion policy in this direction is also long passed. Without
> claims of offensiveness or community harm caused by any specific strings,
> the gTLD review process really will be unable to properly evaluate this
> objection.
>
> And finally, there is something puzzling and inconsistent regarding the
> objection to monopolizing words at the top level of domains but not at
> lower levels. For instance, why is single ownership of the "book" TLD more
> objectionable than single ownership of "book.com"? Arguably, if domains
> such as "book.com" and "book.co.in" (etc) were not allowed to be
> privately owned and monopolized, and the domains could be used by multiple
> book-related destinations, there would be no need for the expansion
> happening now. Without previous objection to private ownership of common
> words at lower levels, there is less justification (and less credibility)
> to now object to private ownership at the top level."
>  A thing of beauty, this multistakeholder open participatory model.
>
>  Yours,
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
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