[governance] Re: Final registration list

Fri Oct 26 07:56:28 EDT 2012

Hi Ginger,

About the timezone thing - I usually make it a point to keep 3 important
timezones on my clock (windows 7) - usually it's local time, UTC and one
other timezone depending on which is important - plus tungle.me offers some
superb cross-timezone scheduling capabilities.

Best,
Chaitanya

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who supports remote participation, especially/including
> Jeremy. One good thing about this incident is the discussion emphasizing
> the need to allow remote participants to register as full attendees to
> events, especially global policy discussion meetings.
>
> Jeremy, I look forward to being able to register as a remote participant
> soon, hopefully after the weekend. Thanks for your generosity with your
> time, expertise  and energy.
>
> Quick note: those of us who support the IGF process and remote
> participation, and won't be in Baku, need to plan to be available for these
> 5 days, in a similar way to those who travel to Baku. I find it is helpful
> to switch to the local (Baku) time when attending a meeting 'remotely'. To
> be taken seriously, remote participants have to take attending the meeting
> seriously too. Most RPers do... This is just a note for first timers. We
> really have to take on the mindset of 'going to the IGF' to make the most
> of RP.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ginger
>
>
>
> Ginger (Virginia) Paque
>
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> On 25 October 2012 20:32, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>
>> Since being cross-posted to the governance list, this thread has lost a
>> bit of context.  So just to backtrack, Ginger was not talking about
>> registration for the IGF, which I have nothing to do with.  Actually as you
>> may know, I've been probably the longest campaigner for improvement in
>> support for online participation in the IGF,[0] including the ability for
>> remote participants to register online.[1]  So no argument there.
>>
>> She was talking about Best Bits, the civil society meeting planned for
>> 3-4 November, for which I've been the lead organiser.  In that case, remote
>> participation was treated as integral from the start, and remote
>> participants were invited at the outset to register themselves at the same
>> time and in the same manner as everyone else.[2]
>>
>> However since then, we have moved to a different website and we required
>> everyone who was attending in person to re-register, for  purposes of
>> arranging logistics on the ground.[3]  Meanwhile I haven't yet provided a
>> new mechanism for remote participants to register (or re-register), but am
>> working on that this weekend.  All the other facilities for remote
>> participants are, however, already in place and have been for some time.[4]
>>
>> Hope that clarifies.
>>
>> [0] http://intgovforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=1.0 dating way back to
>> 2006
>> [1] See half-way down page 2 of
>> http://igf.wgig.org/Contributions-Sept_2008/OCDC_Jeremy-Malcolm.pdf
>> [2] See under "Participants" at http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/BestBits, and
>> also http://bit.ly/SqnzeS
>> [3] http://bestbits.igf-online.net
>> [4] http://bestbits.igf-online.net/streaming/
>>
>> On 26/10/2012, at 1:08 AM, Narine Khachatryan <
>> ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I absolutely agree with what Ginger says.
>>
>> Why remote participants are not suggested to register???
>>
>> 1. The IGF is being organized in a place, where many people are not able
>> to travel. (!)
>>
>> In particular, those who live in Armenia, have Armenian origin, some
>> citizens of other countries (if necessary I will explain who in another
>> email), and all those who value highly their privacy  -  they all cannot
>> visit Azerbaijan.
>>
>> I repeat, why remote participants are not counted on this event?
>>
>> Again, I fully support Ginger's suggestion to enlarge the frames of the
>> event including remote participants.
>>
>> Regards, Narine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeremy and al,
>>> I see you have removed my name from the registration list, as I will not
>>> be present in Baku. I also note that remote participants are not suggested
>>> to register.
>>>
>>> If this list is to assist networking and exchange of ideas and
>>> knowledge, I think that those of us who are remote would appreciate being
>>> included in the list, so our 'invisible' presence and interest are
>>> perceived.
>>>
>>> While the list's first purpose surely was for planning meeting room
>>> purposes, now that it is being circulated for networking exchange, it
>>> becomes even more valuable to remote participants.  This is an important
>>> acknowledgement of our presence.
>>>
>>> I urge you to encourage remote participants to register, and to be
>>> treated as full participants, not just observers of this important meeting,
>>> as much as is possible. Remote participation is one of the 'Best Bits' of
>>> the IGF, and I know you support it fully. One of the points the IGF Remote
>>> Participation Working Group prioritizes is the registration of remote
>>> participants as equal members of a meeting.
>>>
>>> I will re-register, knowing my name will stay on the list :)
>>>
>>> With much appreciation for your energy and organization, and everyone's
>>> input,
>>>
>>> Ginger
>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque
>>>
>>> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu
>>> Diplo Foundation
>>> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme
>>> www.diplomacy.edu/ig
>>> **
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 October 2012 06:53, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> Good to see this is moving along.  Is there any chance we could attach
>>>> a bit more info to the names for the benefit of those who don't know each
>>>> other?  Even just links to home pages would help...
>>>>
>>>>    Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A couple of people have requested the final list of registered
>>>> participants, so here it is. If you are not shown here and plan to be at
>>>> Best Bits in person, please let me know and register now at
>>>> http://bestbits.igf-online.net/.  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Puddephatt
>>>> Anja Kovacs
>>>> Anriette Esterhuysen
>>>> Antonio Medina Gomez
>>>> Arthit Suriyawongkul
>>>> Avri Doria
>>>> Brett Solomon
>>>> Claudio Ruiz
>>>> Deborah Brown
>>>> Dixie Hawtin
>>>> Elonnai Hickok
>>>> Emma Llanso
>>>> Gene Kimmelman
>>>> Iarla Flynn
>>>> Imran Ahmed Shah
>>>> Jeremy Malcolm
>>>> Jochai Ben-Avie
>>>> Joonas Mikael Mäkinen
>>>> Joy Liddicoat
>>>> Katitza Rodriguez
>>>> Kevin Bankston
>>>> Matthew Shears
>>>> Michael Gurstein
>>>> Norbert Bollow
>>>> Parminder Jeet Singh
>>>> Pranesh Prakash
>>>> Premila Kumar
>>>> Raquel Gatto
>>>> Rashmi Rangnath
>>>> Shita Laksmi
>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>> Theresa Züger
>>>> Valeria Betancourt
>>>> William Drake
>>>>  * *
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>>>> Internet and Open Source lawyer, consumer advocate, geek
>>>> host -t NAPTR 5.9.8.5.2.8.2.2.1.0.6.e164.org|awk -F! '{print $3}'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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