<div>Hi Ginger,</div><div> </div><div>About the timezone thing - I usually make it a point to keep 3 important timezones on my clock (windows 7) - usually it's local time, UTC and one other timezone depending on which is important - plus <a href="http://tungle.me">tungle.me</a> offers some superb cross-timezone scheduling capabilities.</div>
<div> </div><div>Best,</div><div>Chaitanya<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Ginger Paque <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com" target="_blank">gpaque@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">Thanks to everyone who supports remote participation, especially/including Jeremy. One good thing about this incident is the discussion emphasizing the need to allow remote participants to register as full attendees to events, especially global policy discussion meetings.<br>
<br>Jeremy, I look forward to being able to register as a remote participant soon, hopefully after the weekend. Thanks for your generosity with your time, expertise and energy.<br><br>Quick note: those of us who support the IGF process and remote participation, and won't be in Baku, need to plan to be available for these 5 days, in a similar way to those who travel to Baku. I find it is helpful to switch to the local (Baku) time when attending a meeting 'remotely'. To be taken seriously, remote participants have to take attending the meeting seriously too. Most RPers do... This is just a note for first timers. We really have to take on the mindset of 'going to the IGF' to make the most of RP.<br>
<br>Best wishes,<div class="im HOEnZb"><br>Ginger<br><br><br><br clear="all">Ginger (Virginia) Paque<br><br><div><a href="mailto:VirginiaP@diplomacy.edu" target="_blank">VirginiaP@diplomacy.edu</a><br><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small">Diplo Foundation<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Since being cross-posted to the governance list, this thread has lost a bit of context. So just to backtrack, Ginger was not talking about registration for the IGF, which I have nothing to do with. Actually as you may know, I've been probably the longest campaigner for improvement in support for online participation in the IGF,[0] including the ability for remote participants to register online.[1] So no argument there.</div>
<div><br></div><div>She was talking about Best Bits, the civil society meeting planned for 3-4 November, for which I've been the lead organiser. In that case, remote participation was treated as integral from the start, and remote participants were invited at the outset to register themselves at the same time and in the same manner as everyone else.[2]</div>
<div><br></div><div>However since then, we have moved to a different website and we required everyone who was attending in person to re-register, for purposes of arranging logistics on the ground.[3] Meanwhile I haven't yet provided a new mechanism for remote participants to register (or re-register), but am working on that this weekend. All the other facilities for remote participants are, however, already in place and have been for some time.[4]</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hope that clarifies.</div><div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="http://intgovforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=1.0" target="_blank">http://intgovforum.org/forum/index.php?topic=1.0</a> dating way back to 2006</div>
<div>[1] See half-way down page 2 of <a href="http://igf.wgig.org/Contributions-Sept_2008/OCDC_Jeremy-Malcolm.pdf" target="_blank">http://igf.wgig.org/Contributions-Sept_2008/OCDC_Jeremy-Malcolm.pdf</a></div><div>[2] See under "Participants" at <a href="http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/BestBits" target="_blank">http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/BestBits</a>, and also <a href="http://bit.ly/SqnzeS" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/SqnzeS</a></div>
<div>[3] <a href="http://bestbits.igf-online.net" target="_blank">http://bestbits.igf-online.net</a></div><div>[4] <a href="http://bestbits.igf-online.net/streaming/" target="_blank">http://bestbits.igf-online.net/streaming/</a></div>
<br><div><div>On 26/10/2012, at 1:08 AM, Narine Khachatryan <<a href="mailto:ms.narine.khachatryan@gmail.com" target="_blank">ms.narine.khachatryan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<div>
<br></div><div>I absolutely agree with what Ginger says. </div><div><br></div><div>Why remote participants are not suggested to register???</div><div><br></div><div>1. The IGF is being organized in a place, where many people are not able to travel. (!) </div>
<div><br></div><div>In particular, those who live in Armenia, have Armenian origin, some citizens of other countries (if necessary I will explain who in another email), and all those who value highly their privacy - they all cannot visit Azerbaijan. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I repeat, why remote participants are not counted on this event?</div><div><br></div><div>Again, I fully support Ginger's suggestion to enlarge the frames of the event including remote participants.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards, Narine </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Ginger Paque <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com" target="_blank">gpaque@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">Hi Jeremy and al,<br>I see you have removed my name from the registration list, as I will not be present in Baku. I also note that remote participants are not suggested to register.<br>
<br>If this list is to assist networking and exchange of ideas and knowledge, I think that those of us who are remote would appreciate being included in the list, so our 'invisible' presence and interest are perceived. <br>
<br>While the list's first purpose surely was for planning meeting room purposes, now that it is being circulated for networking exchange, it becomes even more valuable to remote participants. This is an important acknowledgement of our presence. <br>
<br>I urge you to encourage remote participants to register, and to be treated as full participants, not just observers of this important meeting, as much as is possible. Remote participation is one of the 'Best Bits' of the IGF, and I know you support it fully. One of the points the IGF Remote Participation Working Group prioritizes is the registration of remote participants as equal members of a meeting.<br>
<br>I will re-register, knowing my name will stay on the list :)<br><br>With much appreciation for your energy and organization, and everyone's input,<br><br>Ginger<br clear="all">Ginger (Virginia) Paque<br><br><div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Jeremy<div><br></div><div>Good to see this is moving along. Is there any chance we could attach a bit more info to the names for the benefit of those who don't know each other? Even just links to home pages would help...<br>
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