[governance] U.S. - Japan Policy Cooperation Dialogue on the Internet Economy

[Chaitanya Dhareshwar]

Hi David,

Yes the network latency is the lowest - wasnt talking about that one -
however the same system with the same setup would cost more, and the belief
that investing in buying/leasing a cloud system from a developed country
always has it's own 'charm'.

As for satellite setups - unless the satellite network concerned has a
primary routing hub in the country concerned, we're still talking
cross-country traffic for a supposedly local setup. For example (fact) -
VSAT in India - our traffic is routed via one of our neighbouring countries
- so the speed of connecting to a website/server/etc in THAT country is
about 200ms faster than connecting to one in India.

Either way for the same $ invested, the fastest cloud would still be in the
most developed countries, moreso if they have been investing actively in
computing infra (since they will likely get better costs for their new
setups).

Even if they do outperform. Unless there's an SLA written in blood who
would give them a chance? And like I'd said earlier in my response to Alex
- without a customer base how long will they survive? Or even if they
survive how will they be able to keep pace with the 'developed' country
DCs?

Scenario currently: No one, no way, no how.

Will the IXPs change this? Yes they definitely will. The question is
whether the change be at an effective pace (time+cost+roi+performance)?

IMHO we'll still have people taking servers in the US/UK/etc because:
1. Cost per unit server is less
2. Reputed ISP/DC
3. 'Closer to our Customers' - a point that works for most people here in
India.

-C

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:26 AM, David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Oct 22, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <chaitanyabd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Increasing the digital divide more like - the fastest clouds would be in
> the most developed countries and thus the entire "cloud computing
> investment" will go: to the most developed countries.
>
> Actually, the "fastest clouds" are the ones that are closest (network
> topologically) to you. Tying two threads together, I'd think "local" cloud
> service providers deploying at in-country IXPs would likely out-perform any
> cloud service provider at the other end of a long fiber (or worse,
> satellite connection).
>
> Regards,
> -drc
>
>
>
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