[governance] Interesting story of the never ending ICANN Conflict of Interest. This time on .africa?

Mon Oct 15 07:35:13 EDT 2012

Dear Carlos,

As you know ICANN has been constantly extending delays and postponing
deadlines in the new extensions process. Unless you believe in miracles
this is not going to stop right away.

A corporation candidate for a string has already committed resources,
internal staff, consultants, lawyers, partnership for sharing the string
with other organizations, etc. When the ICANN process is longer than
anticipated, or even unpredictable, it's a drain on the corporate budget.
Make a bet, $50k monthly or more. It's also a loss of credibility and a
risk of being shoved aside for the executives who decided to join the new
extensions craze. Then what ?

Like in the stock market. When prospects are bad enough, take your loss
before losing more. AFAIK several (6) candidates have already withdrawn.
ICANN refunds $55k, the loss is $130k per string, plus a sizable fraction
of resources already committed. It's a better deal than one year delay,
isn't.

No wonder ICANN did collect money up front. They expected to lock their
pigeons in a safe cage.

Btw, as far as I remember, in its early days ICANN toyed with some sort of
auction or lottery for domain names. Apparently the idea was shelved,
because illegal in California.

Enjoy the day.
Louis
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On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

> Dear Louis,
>
> The Werner Staub article on CircleId you quote, showing Icann's virotic
> propensity for games and lottery, is fascinating. If this is so (and Werner
> is very convincing), why should Icann receive the application fee in
> advance?
>
> frt rgds
>
> --c.a.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
> "Louis Pouzin (well)" <pouzin at well.com> escreveu:
>
> Hi,
>
> ICANN is both a regulator and a vendor of services based on its
> regulations. This is just the same as a private standard body taking
> patents on its own standards and collecting license fees.
>
> Rhetoric of equitable, neutral, accountable, transparent,
> multi-stakeholder, public interest, bottom up (or down), belongs to
> outreach (aka propaganda). We know the reality, and we know it cannot
> change.
>
> The reason it cannot change is that ICANN's structure is by design a locus
> of permanent conflicts of interests. A self proclaimed world monopoly,
> without voting members, nor international statute, collecting hundreds
> millions $, without paying taxes anywhere, is already liable to suspicion.
> Are the costs justified by provided services, or are services the
> by-product of a racket ?
>
> Humans not being angels, it would be very naive to believe that ICANN's
> decision makers would stricly ignore their own personal and future
> interests. And this is to last as long as regulation and services provision
> keep hiding behind the smoke screen of a single organization.
>
> Another flame (not from Kieren McCarthy).
>
>
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121013_the_draw_icann_severe_case_of_virus_infection/
>
> Louis
> - - -
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:58 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:
>
>>
>>  On Friday 12 October 2012 10:32 AM, Martin McOsieno wrote:
>>
>>  Hi
>>
>>  Interesting story of the never ending ICANN Conflict of Interest. This
>> time on .africa?
>>
>> But isnt the problem of conflict of interest structural to
>> multistakeholder (MS) governance (not multistakeholder policy inputs, but
>> actual governance) because MS governance is about those who have interest
>> (or stake) being part of decision making processes. ICANN board and its
>> various decision making committees, for instance, are full of people from
>> the domain name industry, an industry that ICANN is supposed to regulate.
>> Could one, coming from an old fashioned democratic tradition, even think of
>> US's Federal Communications Commission or Telecom Regulatory Authority of
>> India having a rep from Verizon or Airtel respectively! No, certainly not,
>> it would be unthinkable. But not so in the ICANN's world of MSism.
>>
>> Consequently most conflict of interest talk at ICANN is window dressing,
>> when the going, and the press, becomes too blatantly bad, as in the case of
>> their former Chairman's misadventures. Otherwise, in the game as usual it
>> is interested parties laying global CIR policies all the way, and the
>> public or the supposed reps of the public sit in the gallery and clap
>> enthusiastically about the untold wonders of MSism.
>>
>> This is what the outgoing CEO of ICANN had to say
>>
>> “Icann must place commercial and financial interests in their appropriate
>> context,” said Mr. Beckstrom, who is scheduled to step down from his post
>> in July. “How can it do this if all top leadership is from the very
>> domain-name industry it is supposed to coordinate independently?
>>
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/19/technology/private-fight-at-internet-naming-firm-goes-public.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1332165645-IV28j+gNERC8I8kD5rURmA
>>
>> See some examples of an endemic of conflicts of interest in ICANN at
>> http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=1072&doc_id=240923.
>>
>> Many of you may not have great positive thoughts about the democratic
>> system of governance in India, but I can assure you that if any
>> governmental/policy organisation in India approached anywhere near the
>> conflict of interest mess that ICANN is, it would take one public interest
>> litigation to the high court or supreme court to get it folded up in a
>> matter of days, even if the government itself does not fold it up (which
>> too I am sure it would do on its own).
>>
>> parminder
>>
>
>
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