[governance] Indian Express on privacy

[Fahd A. Batayneh]

Would say that it is true for developed countries, but not for developing
and least developed where some benefit (financially) from peering to
Western countries.

Fahd
On Nov 24, 2012 5:16 PM, "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com
> > wrote:
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>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh <
>>> fahd.batayneh at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> While I do have Facebook and Twitter accounts, I have not accessed any
>>>> of them for quite a long time, and I do not use them. This is what one can
>>>> expect when posting personal data online. However, if we look at things
>>>> differently, who is not exposed (Internet users)? All our Internet traffic
>>>> passes through the various Tier-1 ISPs in the USA and EU
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>>> ALL, is a pretty strong statement.
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>> Well, we can exclude local traffic passing via IXPs or maybe within the
>> same network, and maybe very sensitive data that move across the same
>> Intranet, or maybe traffic that moves within censorship-driven countries.
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>>> Do you have any evidence for it?
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>> No one has evidence about either scenario (everything is monitored vs.
>> something is monitored vs. nothing is monitored). But would you disagree
>> that Internet traffic moving overseas does have to pass at access points
>> based in Western countries?
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> Yes. There are major CDN nodes and IXPs where Tier1s (and Tier2s and 3s)
> peer around the globe.  Your traffic does not have to go to US/EU.  In fact
> it does not even have to transit a Tier1 provider.
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>>> , and some of them might want to inspect traffic randomly as measures of
>>>> "National Security".
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>>> None of them "want to", as it would impact business of passing packets.
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>> Not really. Business is one aspect of the story, but national interests
>> is another (especially Western countries that keep using the term "War on
>> Terror").
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> Then that would be a "MUST" not a "WANT".
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> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>
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