[governance] Indian Express on privacy

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Sat Nov 24 09:15:39 EST 2012


On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh
<fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Fahd A. Batayneh <
>> fahd.batayneh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> While I do have Facebook and Twitter accounts, I have not accessed any
>>> of them for quite a long time, and I do not use them. This is what one can
>>> expect when posting personal data online. However, if we look at things
>>> differently, who is not exposed (Internet users)? All our Internet traffic
>>> passes through the various Tier-1 ISPs in the USA and EU
>>>
>>
>>
>> ALL, is a pretty strong statement.
>>
>
> Well, we can exclude local traffic passing via IXPs or maybe within the
> same network, and maybe very sensitive data that move across the same
> Intranet, or maybe traffic that moves within censorship-driven countries.
>
>
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>> Do you have any evidence for it?
>>
>
> No one has evidence about either scenario (everything is monitored vs.
> something is monitored vs. nothing is monitored). But would you disagree
> that Internet traffic moving overseas does have to pass at access points
> based in Western countries?
>


Yes. There are major CDN nodes and IXPs where Tier1s (and Tier2s and 3s)
peer around the globe.  Your traffic does not have to go to US/EU.  In fact
it does not even have to transit a Tier1 provider.





>
>
>>
>> , and some of them might want to inspect traffic randomly as measures of
>>> "National Security".
>>>
>>
>>
>> None of them "want to", as it would impact business of passing packets.
>>
>
> Not really. Business is one aspect of the story, but national interests is
> another (especially Western countries that keep using the term "War on
> Terror").
>
>

Then that would be a "MUST" not a "WANT".

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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