[governance] Google's Fight the ITU/WCIT website

michael gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Wed Nov 21 14:50:22 EST 2012


Perhaps a sophisticated form of forum shopping?

 

http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2012/10/15/googles-world-antitrust-decis
ion-near-plus-patents-privacy/

 

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From: apeake at gmail.com [mailto:apeake at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Adam Peake

Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:36 AM

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Subject: Re: [governance] Google's Fight the ITU/WCIT website

 

Google attacks UN net conference

 

<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20429625>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:

> 

> Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:

> 

> > Norbert Bollow [21/11/12 10:36 +0100]:

> > >> I fail to see how google selling email, collaboration etc 

> > >> services to telcos has anything to do with the free and open internet
here.

> > >

> > >You may need to read up on the very significant body of literature 

> > >that exists about the effects of this kind of partnerships.

> >

> > I haven't seen significant papers in this area, but am glad to be 

> > corrected.

> >

> > I do come from a background where my workplace (and my previous

> > workplace) have been large mail hosting shops that hosted mail for 

> > everything from small businesses, ngos and universities to ISPs and 

> > free webmail providers.  So - please do tell me just what effect 

> > outsourcing your mail hosting has, from a governance standpoint. I 

> > might be able to provide a counterpoint or two.

> 

> I don't know about any literature on this specific type of deal that 

> would describe how there's a significant difference between that 

> "email, collaboration etc services" deal with a company with Google's 

> technical and market power muscle as opposed to outsourcing just email 

> to the kind of company that you describe.

> 

> But there's a significant body of literature on antitrust concerns in 

> general, and it's easy to find. Also there is literature on price 

> discrimination, which goes very much to the heart of Parminder's point 

> as I understand it. I would propose that a good starting point on that 

> topic is this paper:

> 

> A. M. Odlyzko: The evolution of price discrimination in transportation 

> and its implications for the Internet, Review of Network Economics, 

> vol. 3, no. 3, September 2004, pp. 323-346.

> http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzko/doc/rne33.pdf

> 

> Greetings,

> Norbert

> 

> 

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