[governance] FW: [MobileActive Discuss] Why Cell Phones Went Dead After Hurricane Sandy- Bloomberg

[michael gurstein]

And back to you Alejandro... what interventions would make sense and what
wouldn't (and who and how...

M

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From: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch [mailto:apisan at unam.mx] 
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Subject: RE: [governance] FW: [MobileActive Discuss] Why Cell Phones Went
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Michael,

don't forget layers.

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Hasta: 'Pranesh Prakash'; governance at lists.igcaucus.org
Asunto: RE: [governance] FW: [MobileActive Discuss] Why Cell Phones Went
Dead After Hurricane Sandy- Bloomberg

Those are good points and serious issues Pranesh.

I think what this discussion indicates is that there is a need for a nuanced
approach to the issue of standard setting/regulation at the global level
including taking into consideration how this will (or could) impact at the
national level.  What is not needed and particularly from CS is an
uncritical adherence to the "hands off the Internet/free the Internet"
position being advocated by some governments and many (self-interested)
corporations, ignoring the need for various kinds of interventions as a
support to various issues of significance from the perspective of a  global
public interest.

A problem with the approach currently being advocated by many is that there
is no opportunity for reflection as to what issues could and should be
addressed and in what fora, and which should not.  Being stampeded over an
anti-governance "no-regulation" libertarian cliff  is not I think, in the
interests of most whether in Developed or in Less Developed Countries.

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranesh Prakash [mailto:pranesh at cis-india.org]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:18 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein
Subject: Re: [governance] FW: [MobileActive Discuss] Why Cell Phones Went
Dead After Hurricane Sandy- Bloomberg

michael gurstein [2012-11-17 19:30]:
> Who can we rely on to act in support of the (global) public 
> interest--IBM, Google, Facebook, AT&T, the USG, "the market"..?

In India we face the opposite problem of that described by Susan Crawford.
Through the ISP Licence, the UAS Licence, the Telecom licence, the
government has armed itself with powers against the ISPs and telecom
companies that it does not have under any law.

For instance, there is a stricture in those licences against "bulk
encryption" of more than 40bits without key escrow, despite the government
requiring 128 bit encryption by all banks in another law.
There is a requirement of having a black box room on their premises with
access to all communications, though blanket surveillance (under some
readings of Indian law and the judicial interpretation of the right to
privacy as a fundamental right) is not permissible.  Importantly, if it
doesn't harm their bottom line, these companies have no incentive to not
cooperate.

While we should avoid moving to a state of 'no regulation' (competition law,
consumer law, etc., should apply), in many countries, especially LDCs and
developing countries, we are on the opposite side of the spectrum.  Please
spare a thought for developing countries too ;)

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Pranesh Prakash
Policy Director
Centre for Internet and Society
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