[governance] Barack Obama Victory Tweet Most Retweeted Ever

Chaitanya Dhareshwar chaitanyabd at gmail.com
Thu Nov 8 01:49:06 EST 2012 

While on the topic of participation from India I was hoping to hear more
about the discussion the IT minister had @Baku. I'm sure it'll get better
(yes I'm a glass-full person) over time as there have been little or no
politically motivated improvements to
connectivity/interaction/participation thus far and it's going to start
soon.

Agreed on people participation.

-C

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<suresh at hserus.net>wrote:

> I'm for maintaining the icann / RIR etc status quo with more people enabled
> to participate more actively in these.
>
> Participation from say India has been fairly limited for one reason or the
> other (industry to some extent though it started to get vocal, and rather
> political, in apnic .. and government to a rather larger extent)
>
> Chaitanya Dhareshwar [08/11/12 11:11 +0530]:
>
>> "Is going to" - no because he didnt get the top job. "Would he have done
>> something different?" possibly - but we won't know by speculating. IMHO
>> yes
>> Romney would have approached the point differently.
>>
>> I said "issues with" don't miss that out please. Those issues were veto'd
>> which I've also written - do re-read the sentence with these points in
>> mind
>> - and not push me into a boat. I'm yet to choose which one (though non-ITU
>> sounds good, again IMHO).
>>
>> Best,
>> C
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>> <suresh at hserus.net>wrote:
>>
>>  Do you seriously believe that *Romney* is going to do anything different?
>>>
>>> As for "fair bit of control" - does that mean you support handing all
>>> this
>>> over to the ITU?
>>>
>>> Chaitanya Dhareshwar [08/11/12 11:03 +0530]:
>>>
>>>  Given the recent issues with the USG asserting (or trying to assert) a
>>>> fair
>>>> bit of control over the internet, and the fact that Obama's government
>>>> veto'd the change I figure it's relevant to us in the context that the
>>>> status quo will continue. A change of first citizen of the US can result
>>>> in
>>>> fair few changes in the overall thinking/working of the country - so yes
>>>> this *news* is certainly important.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The article just looks like an 'election update' type of news and not
>>>> particularly relevant - so, Suresh I do agree with you here.
>>>>
>>>> -C
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>>>> <suresh at hserus.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Don't get me wrong, I'd have voted for Obama if I were a US citizen
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The one thing I have an issue with is that there's little or no
>>>>> relationship between that (or other discussion about the US elections)
>>>>> and
>>>>> internet governance.  Except in an abstract way as an illustration of
>>>>> the
>>>>> USA's tradition of free speech, say.
>>>>>
>>>>> This list has a fairly high level of traffic, so getting four or five
>>>>> news
>>>>> articles, seemingly randomly chosen, forwarded to it every day doesn't
>>>>> help
>>>>> much.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks srs
>>>>>
>>>>> Charity Gamboa [07/11/12 23:00 -0600]:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Suresh,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's always a matter of opinion. Anybody can hit the delete key if
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> particular item perplexes them. But you know some of us who can make
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> connection  - then it's not a big deal. The picture of the president
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the first lady hugging and is heavily tweeted (and even circulated in
>>>>>> Facebook) is a sign of free speech online.  Please don't get me wrong
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> are entitled to ask. There are so many facebook pages created in the
>>>>>> US
>>>>>> that is devoted to political opinions, e.g. "*Politically Incorrect
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Proud of It Too*." Anybody can subscribe to humorous quotes, posts and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pictures that pokes fun at President Obama. That's like normal
>>>>>> squabbling.
>>>>>> You have the likes of Michelle Malkin who is a very strong
>>>>>> conservative
>>>>>> blogger who uses her Twitchy website to post her tweets (as
>>>>>> screenshots)
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make a political point. So those people who tweeted on Obama's winning
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> probably his supporters, thus, expressing their own right to express
>>>>>> themselves via social media. I see nothing wrong with that regardless
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> one is a liberal, conservative or a libertarian. Do I really need to
>>>>>> elaborate on this issue? Nope - it's a no brainer. I just want to
>>>>>> point
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> that this is how I would think of the issue. But I wouldn't chide Fahd
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> posting that here as well as he is also is exercising his right to
>>>>>> share
>>>>>> his opinion. I also chose to give him a break.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charity Gamboa-Embley
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <
>>>>>> suresh at hserus.net
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Well you see, without some commentary about it in this context from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  original poster, it is practically impossible to tell the difference
>>>>>>> between that and idle forwarding of random news articles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --srs (htc one x)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ivar A. M. Hartmann" <ivarhartmann at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org******" <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>>>>> ****>,
>>>>>>> "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [governance] Barack Obama Victory Tweet Most Retweeted Ever
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 4:26 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe major happenings in the field of social networks are of
>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>> to IG.
>>>>>>> In this case, it's more strong evidence of the use of social networks
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> political speech. This relates to cyberdemocracy theories and
>>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>>> stakeholders involved in regulating free speech online as political
>>>>>>> speech
>>>>>>> is deemed in almost all democracies to be the type of speech that
>>>>>>> calls
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the stronger protection.
>>>>>>> Just my opinion.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Ivar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <
>>>>>>> suresh at hserus.net
>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > May I ask your opinion on how or why a photo of a couple hugging is
>>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>>> > remotely related to igov?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --srs (iPad)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On 08-Nov-2012, at 1:26, "Fahd A. Batayneh" <
>>>>>>> fahd.batayneh at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/******technology-20237531<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/****technology-20237531>
>>>>>>> <http://**www.bbc.co.uk/news/****technology-20237531<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/**technology-20237531>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> <http://**www.bbc.co.uk/news/**technology-**20237531<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-**20237531>
>>>>>>> <http://**www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-**20237531<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20237531>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The words "four more years", coupled with a photo of Barack and
>>>>>>> Michelle
>>>>>>> > Obama embraced in a hug, have become the most retweeted Twitter
>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>> ever.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Fahd
>>>>>>> >
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