[governance] Barack Obama Victory Tweet Most Retweeted Ever
Suresh Ramasubramanian
suresh at hserus.net
Thu Nov 8 01:13:05 EST 2012
I'm for maintaining the icann / RIR etc status quo with more people enabled
to participate more actively in these.
Participation from say India has been fairly limited for one reason or the
other (industry to some extent though it started to get vocal, and rather
political, in apnic .. and government to a rather larger extent)
Chaitanya Dhareshwar [08/11/12 11:11 +0530]:
>"Is going to" - no because he didnt get the top job. "Would he have done
>something different?" possibly - but we won't know by speculating. IMHO yes
>Romney would have approached the point differently.
>
>I said "issues with" don't miss that out please. Those issues were veto'd
>which I've also written - do re-read the sentence with these points in mind
>- and not push me into a boat. I'm yet to choose which one (though non-ITU
>sounds good, again IMHO).
>
>Best,
>C
>
>On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
><suresh at hserus.net>wrote:
>
>> Do you seriously believe that *Romney* is going to do anything different?
>>
>> As for "fair bit of control" - does that mean you support handing all this
>> over to the ITU?
>>
>> Chaitanya Dhareshwar [08/11/12 11:03 +0530]:
>>
>>> Given the recent issues with the USG asserting (or trying to assert) a
>>> fair
>>> bit of control over the internet, and the fact that Obama's government
>>> veto'd the change I figure it's relevant to us in the context that the
>>> status quo will continue. A change of first citizen of the US can result
>>> in
>>> fair few changes in the overall thinking/working of the country - so yes
>>> this *news* is certainly important.
>>>
>>>
>>> The article just looks like an 'election update' type of news and not
>>> particularly relevant - so, Suresh I do agree with you here.
>>>
>>> -C
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>>> <suresh at hserus.net>wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, I'd have voted for Obama if I were a US citizen
>>>>
>>>> The one thing I have an issue with is that there's little or no
>>>> relationship between that (or other discussion about the US elections)
>>>> and
>>>> internet governance. Except in an abstract way as an illustration of the
>>>> USA's tradition of free speech, say.
>>>>
>>>> This list has a fairly high level of traffic, so getting four or five
>>>> news
>>>> articles, seemingly randomly chosen, forwarded to it every day doesn't
>>>> help
>>>> much.
>>>>
>>>> thanks srs
>>>>
>>>> Charity Gamboa [07/11/12 23:00 -0600]:
>>>>
>>>> Suresh,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's always a matter of opinion. Anybody can hit the delete key if that
>>>>> particular item perplexes them. But you know some of us who can make the
>>>>> connection - then it's not a big deal. The picture of the president and
>>>>> the first lady hugging and is heavily tweeted (and even circulated in
>>>>> Facebook) is a sign of free speech online. Please don't get me wrong -
>>>>> you
>>>>> are entitled to ask. There are so many facebook pages created in the US
>>>>> that is devoted to political opinions, e.g. "*Politically Incorrect and
>>>>> Proud of It Too*." Anybody can subscribe to humorous quotes, posts and
>>>>>
>>>>> pictures that pokes fun at President Obama. That's like normal
>>>>> squabbling.
>>>>> You have the likes of Michelle Malkin who is a very strong conservative
>>>>> blogger who uses her Twitchy website to post her tweets (as screenshots)
>>>>> to
>>>>> make a political point. So those people who tweeted on Obama's winning
>>>>> are
>>>>> probably his supporters, thus, expressing their own right to express
>>>>> themselves via social media. I see nothing wrong with that regardless if
>>>>> one is a liberal, conservative or a libertarian. Do I really need to
>>>>> elaborate on this issue? Nope - it's a no brainer. I just want to point
>>>>> out
>>>>> that this is how I would think of the issue. But I wouldn't chide Fahd
>>>>> for
>>>>> posting that here as well as he is also is exercising his right to share
>>>>> his opinion. I also chose to give him a break.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charity Gamboa-Embley
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <
>>>>> suresh at hserus.net
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well you see, without some commentary about it in this context from the
>>>>>
>>>>>> original poster, it is practically impossible to tell the difference
>>>>>> between that and idle forwarding of random news articles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --srs (htc one x)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ivar A. M. Hartmann" <ivarhartmann at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org****" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>>>> ****>,
>>>>>> "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net>
>>>>>> Cc: "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [governance] Barack Obama Victory Tweet Most Retweeted Ever
>>>>>> Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 4:26 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe major happenings in the field of social networks are of
>>>>>> interest
>>>>>> to IG.
>>>>>> In this case, it's more strong evidence of the use of social networks
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> political speech. This relates to cyberdemocracy theories and concerns
>>>>>> stakeholders involved in regulating free speech online as political
>>>>>> speech
>>>>>> is deemed in almost all democracies to be the type of speech that calls
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the stronger protection.
>>>>>> Just my opinion.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Ivar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <
>>>>>> suresh at hserus.net
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > May I ask your opinion on how or why a photo of a couple hugging is
>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>> > remotely related to igov?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --srs (iPad)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 08-Nov-2012, at 1:26, "Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/****technology-20237531<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/**technology-20237531>
>>>>>> <http://**www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-**20237531<http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20237531>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The words "four more years", coupled with a photo of Barack and
>>>>>> Michelle
>>>>>> > Obama embraced in a hug, have become the most retweeted Twitter post
>>>>>> ever.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Fahd
>>>>>> >
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