[governance] CS Speakers for Baku
Milton L Mueller
mueller at syr.edu
Thu Nov 1 17:58:48 EDT 2012
It's a valid question, Mawaki.
The answer seems to be: when it comes to the UN, _everything_ is discretionary, including MAG selections as well as CS speakers.
This is obviously a bad system, and needs to be challenged and changed.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-
> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Mawaki Chango
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:10 PM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Nnenna
> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
>
> Hi,
>
> ... Still, I'm not sure I understand the process that got us nominating
> people and end up with a name that was never mentioned here (this is
> nothing personal). Were there other CS groups that had been running the
> same nomination process? Is this at the discretion of the Secretariat?
> And what happens now to the idea of collectively prepared discourse or
> talking points, and to Milton's good start on that?
>
> Just asking.
>
> mawaki
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Nnenna <nne75 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think Carlos and Valentina make a great pair.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > N
> >
> >
> >
> > Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, NNENNA.ORG | Consultants
> > Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for Development
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> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca>
> > To: william.drake at uzh.ch; glaser at cgi.br
> > Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Carlos A. Afonso
> >
> > William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> escreveu:
> > My apologies to Carlos, I cut and paste from someone else's email
> >
> >
> > On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:
> >
> >
> > Correct name is => Carlos Alberto Afonso ...
> >
> > ==========================================
> > On 31/10/12 17:04, William Drake wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > The secretariat has invited Carlos Alfonso for the opening session and
> > Valentina Pellizzer for the closing session.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Sorry for not following this up earlier. Just too many things to do.
> >
> > Though I said we may run a poll, I guess Carlos is already our de
> > facto speaker, and Nnnena seems to have received good support and
> > fulfills the gender balance and also from developing region.
> >
> > And as Ginger rightly suggested both speakers will take up the talking
> > points into their text, with some degree of, of course, their own
> > words to be added.
> >
> > May I ask you if this is our rough consensus?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > izumi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/10/11 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>:
> >
> > it's what they're sending registrants
> >
> > On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Katy P wrote:
> >
> > What? When did this happen?
> >
> > On Oct 11, 2012 8:24 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
> >
> > In light of the host country's jaw dropping decision to publicly
> > disseminate all participants' passport numbers, I hope whoever we have
> > speaking in the opening an closing will emphasize the centrality of
> > personal privacy protection in Internet governance.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Nnenna wrote:
> >
> > +1 On each of the points below. I am currently in the Côte d'Ivoire
> > Internet Governance Forum and my drafting capacity is limited.
> > However, I would like to see a line that extends "Multistakeholderism"
> > down to active national participation of all stakeholders. AFAIK, in
> > as much as in some countries, the government is weighing in, in ways
> > that may appear overbearing, in others, the decision-makers are
> > actually note interested or think it is an NGO thing.
> >
> > Can we have a "Development Agenda" paragraph? I am also thinking that
> > "Participation" may also need to be a paragraph of its own
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Nnenna
> >
> >
> >
> > Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, NNENNA.ORG
> > | Consultants
> > Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for Development
> > Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax 224 26471 |Mob. 07416820
> > Ghana: +233 249561345| Nigeria: +234 8101887065|
> > http://www.nnenna.org/ nnenna at nnenna.org| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 |
> > nnennaorg.blogspot.com
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
> > To: 'Ginger Paque' <ginger at paque.net>; "governance at lists.igcaucus.org"
> > <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku
> >
> >
> > From: gpaque at gmail.com [mailto:gpaque at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ginger
> > Paque
> >
> > I think that both points are important... I would say 'in addition to'
> > not 'rather than'. Whom we choose sends a signal as sometimes as
> > significant as their words, and we tend to know their general
> > positions as well as speaking abilities when we nominate them.
> >
> > Ginger and colleagues:
> > Yes, of course it is "in addition to" not "rather than" - but has
> > there been any substantive discussion yet? Frankly I think what they
> > say is more important than who we choose, but agree that in some cases
> > "the medium is the message." At any rate we are long on "who" and
> rather short on "what"
> > at the moment, so.
> >
> > let me throw out three short statements on issues that I passionately
> > believe should be addressed. In doing so, I will make an attempt to
> > address them in a way that takes into account the differences among us
> > and hope others do so in the same spirit. Other candidate topics would
> > include IPR, development.I defer to others there.
> >
> > Human rights
> > CS believes that the absence of gatekeepers and the open, global
> > communication enabled by the Internet realizes the promise of Article
> > 19 of the UN UDHR. To erect (national) legal barriers to the free flow
> > of information is a bad idea and contrary to the individual human
> > right to freedom of expression. We therefore oppose efforts to create
> > "national Internets," or to block and filter internet access in ways
> > that deny individuals access to applications, content and services of
> their choice.
> > All attempts to deem certain forms of communication and information
> > illegal and remove them must follow established, transparent processes
> > of law and should not involve prior restraint.
> >
> > Security and Securitization
> > CS opposes efforts to militarize the Internet, or any actions that
> > would foster a destructive and wasteful cyber arms race among
> > governments and/or private actors. We consider the surreptitious use
> > of exploits and malware for surveillance or attacks to be criminal
> > regardless of whether they are deployed by governments, private
> > corporations or organized criminals. We are skeptical of efforts to
> > subordinate the design and use of information and communication
> > technology to "national security" agendas. We believe that Internet
> > security will be achieved primarily at the operational level and that
> > national security and military agendas often work against rather than
> for users' security needs.
> >
> > Multistakeholderism
> > Global governance institutions should not be restricted to states, so
> > CS welcomes the additional participation in global policy making that
> > multi-stakeholder processes provide. But CS cautions that
> > multi-stakeholder participation is not an end in itself. Opening up
> > global governance institutions to additional voices from civil society
> > and business does not by itself ensure that individual rights are
> > adequately protected or that the best substantive policies are
> > developed and enforced. In the informal spaces created by MS
> > institutions, it is possible that powerful governmental and corporate
> actors can make deals contrary to the interests of Internet users.
> > MS processes must incorporate and institutionalize concepts of due
> > process, separation of powers and user's inalienable civil and
> political rights.
> >
> > Milton L. Mueller
> > Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies Internet
> > Governance Project http://blog.internetgovernance.org
> >
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