IETF WAS Re: [governance] Enhanced Cooperation (was Re: reality check on economics)

[McTim]

On 5/29/12, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> McTim,
>
> The problem is that for many "poor countries (LDC's)" there is no "private
> sector" in this area and for the most part no civil society with the
> expertise or the financial resources to participate in these discussions or
> to acquire the requisite expertise.


that MAY be the case.  However, that has NOT been my experience living
in Africa for the last 7 years.  There are both biz folks AND CS
actively involved in both real and meta-IG activities locally,
regionally and globally.  this was re-affirmed earlier this month in
the Gambia, where I met dozens of young Africans from all over the
continent eager to be involved in ISOC/ICANN/RIR/IGF et. al.
activities!


So in the absence of governmental
> involvement there will be no involvement from those parts of the world at
> all.

see above.

>
> That might serve the interests of some quite well, but not surprisingly the
> folks in those countries without representation are beginning to feel
> somewhat aggrieved.

Representation is not how IG is done.

Governments get to say (usually) how a country code telephone
numbering system is managed.  They don't get the same control over how
CIR's are managed.  They may WANT it, but that is not reality based
thinking.


>
> The desire to keep governments out of technical areas is very likely a
> commendable one, but in that instance it behooves the supporters of that
> position to find some other means to ensure that those currently without a
> voice in those discussions are provided with a means to have such a
> participation.

I don't want to keep governements out of technical areas, not at all!!

Last week we had a meeting of the African governmanetal Working Group
at the African Internet Summit.  It is a method of bringing them IN to
the tech/policy side of things!
>
> The status quo always favours the incumbent.


true....I would suggest that your map of the status quo is out of date.

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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