[governance] IGF and Enhanced Cooperation
Anriette Esterhuysen
anriette at apc.org
Mon May 28 11:12:37 EDT 2012
Yes... let's do the pre-event in Baku. APC is willing to lead on this
but we are talking to others to co-convene.
And then let's get the 2013 IGF to feature various aspects of EC much
more prominently. IGF 2013 will be hosted in a developing country
(Indonesia) and it is therefore likely to have far greater developing
country government participation (at least from Asian and African
countries).
Also by then quite a lot would have happened at CSTD/ECOSOC/UNGA level
(and WCIT) as well as inside some of the existing institutions. E.g. the
assessments, report cards, mapping and other suggestions made on the
18th of May.
Anriette
On 28/05/2012 16:37, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Personally I think we need to keep pushing for something during IGF2012.
>
> Let's go into WCIT with the IGF having made room for the problem and having started the process. We have 5 months yet before the meeting, things can't possibly be set in stone at this point. We have a new MAG that was forced to accept a program they were not completely comfortable with, they are entitled to still be thinking about how to make IGF12 as valuable as they possibly can. (Not that I have the faintest idea of whether they would be interested in taking such action)
>
> And whether we can get it into the IGF12 agenda, which I think its the optimal solution, or not, I think the idea that Anriette mentioned on the list earlier:
>
>
> On 27 May 2012, at 11:22, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>
>> Dear Avri
>>
>> We definitely must use the IGF and APC is already thinking of planning a
>> pre-event on this. Not finalised.. and we are talking to various
>> partners.. but I feel strongly we must facilitate substantive dialogue.
>>
>> The IGF was set up to facilitate such discussions. Some people tried to
>> prevent this from happening. I think they now realise that a) they might
>> have been wrong and/or b) further avoidance is not in the interest of
>> the IGF or of multi-stakeholder participation in IG.
>>
>> Anriette
>
> Perhaps since 71 puts the responsibility on the relevant organizations (which I take to mean the mangers of critical Internet resources) to get this underway: "Relevant organizations should commence a process towards enhanced cooperation involving all stakeholders", it won't be to hard to find a set of good sponsors for such an event.
>
> But to be clear. I would like to see both a full day pre-event discussion, and for that event to bring a report (dare i say recommendations?) to the IGF in a workshop arranged for discussion of EC and the IGF.
>
> avri
>
>
>
> On 28 May 2012, at 10:18, Adam Peake wrote:
>
>> Anriette, thanks.
>>
>> Doesn't make sense to me, but nevermind :-)
>>
>> So what next? Enhanced cooperation on the agenda of IGF 2013? I'd
>> support that.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Adam
>>>
>>> We actually checked with one of the authors recently... and she said
>>> that was exactly what she remembers intending the text to say (Avri's
>>> interpretation).
>>>
>>> Anriette
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28/05/2012 15:35, Adam Peake wrote:
>>>>> Agree completely with this logical sequential interpretation by Avri.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree with the logic, but as mentioned, don't think the document was
>>>> drafted with that in mind, those last hours were a mess and this was the
>>>> text that was being worked on. But I wasn't the only one on the room
>>>> and my memory is terrible!
>>>>
>>>> I read 71 and 72 as separate. If they'd intended to be linked there
>>>> would be text saying so, there would be some connecting language
>>>> (furthermore...), and the mandate of the IGF would include a reference
>>>> to enhanced cooperation. The mandate's very clear, a to l. Wish I could
>>>> remember if this was discussed in Tunis.
>>>>
>>>> And also Nitin decided it for us. Both paragraphs ask the secretary
>>>> general to do something, Nitin as the special advisor for Internet
>>>> governance said separate and I guess that's him speaking for the SG. So
>>>> if they are to be linked now it would be the SG or his proxy that does it.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Anriette
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28/05/2012 15:10, Avri Doria wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 May 2012, at 02:23, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leaving aside for a moment the subsequent UNGA resolution on the
>>>>>>> matter (but noting that even though, strictly speaking, we are not
>>>>>>> talking about binding international law, the principle of "lex
>>>>>>> posterior" could apply) I would be curious to know your views on
>>>>>>> which passages of the WSIS texts could lead to such conclusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I may have already sent this to this list at some point, but
>>>>>> it bears repeating often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In terms of my personal opinion, I think the Tunis Agenda actually
>>>>>> places responsiblity for the Enhanced Cooperation with the Forum.
>>>>>> As I read the Tunis Agenda text,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - 67 calls for a forum in a general sense,
>>>>>> - 68 calls for the equal participation of governments,
>>>>>> - 69 call for enhanced cooperation
>>>>>> - 70 calls for the participation of existing IG organizations and
>>>>>> creation of principles,
>>>>>> - 71 calls for UNSG initiation of a multistakeholder process on
>>>>>> enhanced cooperation with yearly status reports and
>>>>>> - 72 defines the forum called for in 67.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words the entire discussion is bracketed by the notion of a
>>>>>> forum. It is called for, it is described, one task is brought out
>>>>>> more than any other, and then they get into the nitty gritty of the
>>>>>> forum called for in 67. In any case it is certain that the TA called
>>>>>> for the process of EC, whether we argue it is in or out of the
>>>>>> context of the IGF, that it must also be a multistakeholder process:
>>>>>> from 71: "... should commence a process towards enhanced cooperation
>>>>>> involving all stakeholders,"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> avri
>>>>>
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