IETF WAS Re: [governance] Enhanced Cooperation (was Re: reality check on economics)

[Avri Doria]

Dear Andrea,

As you, and others, were denigrating a model I think works and is an exemplar, I considered it necessary make common cause with those who defend the model from those who denigrate it. There are few enough workable instances of multistakeholder participatory democracy (MPD).  While these MPDs are imperfect and must continue to evolve and improve, I do not think any of us who are part of these organizations and who support these organizations can allow them to be rendered irrelevant by those who appear to support a multilateral government oversight (MGO) approach.

cheers,

avri

On 23 May 2012, at 10:26, Andrea Glorioso wrote:

> Dear Avri,
> 
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> 
> On 23 May 2012, at 03:57, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
> 
> > However, let me point out that although the IETF may not have a "monopoly"
> > in solving these and/or similar problems, its supporters do tend to present
> > it as the best option for Internet-related standards-setting and, therefore,
> > one may infer that other options should not be pursued.
> 
> That was never my point.
> 
> If anything my point is that it works and while casting about the models that work, this one should not be denigrated and ignored.
> 
> I was also arguing that government people could be as qualified as anyone to operate in a IETF millieau.
> 
> I do not know how that became "IETF is the only model and all others should be ignored."
> 
> Actually, I was not referring to you and my email was in reaction to Norbert's, which seemed to me to have a slightly more sanguine approach to the IETF. 
> 
> And I said "some supporters do tend". I would hope you do not consider yourself as summarising the characteristics of the whole universality of IETF supporters. ;)
> 
> Ciao,
> 
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