[governance] MAG Meeting, Day 2, Afternoon

Fri May 18 03:24:32 EDT 2012

Dear Izumi,

My best congratulations on great job!

It was very useful and interesting to follow the whole process of
discussion with your notes - thank you very-very much!

Best regards,
Oksana

2012/5/17 michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>:
> Just one point...
>
> "Izumi: Principle level: Treat "remote" participants equal to physical
> participants as much as possible."
>
> In the discussion of several months ago on remote participation the point
> was made (although perhaps not in these words) that it was important to
> recognize that people participating remotely were not "equal" in their
> opportunities for participation and in practice never would be. What is
> important as a principle is to recognize the differences in opportunities
> for participation remotely as compared to f2f and to build in mechanisms to
> ensure that the "outcomes" achievable from participation whether remote or
> f2f were as "equal" as possible.
>
> A subtle point perhaps but one that I think is crucial as it provides
> direction for the design of the overall IGF not simply of processes of
> "participation" but also of the desired/anticipated outcomes of the IGF
> itself.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Izumi
> AIZU
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:44 AM
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> Subject: [governance] MAG Meeting, Day 2, Afternoon
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> The MAG meeting finished at around 15:30.
> The overall mood is not bad, positive.
>
> Here is my note for the afternoon session.
>
> I plan to report the Enhanced cooperation workshop tomorrow.
>
> And many thanks for the encouraging comments.
>
> izumi
>
> ---------
>
> Afternoon Session
> 14:20 -
>
> Remote participation
> Technical issues - pass to the Secretariat
>
> institutional element
>  remote hubs
>
> Izumi
> Emphasized the importance of Remote participation.
> Will send technical details to secretariat.
>
>
> Robert Guerra
>
> Vladimir
>
> Kieren
>
> Nurani
>
>
> Chengetai
> Current practice
> integrate RP, improve
> current plan - to offer the same service as last year and previous year
> every single room has equipment, translation provide interactive
>
> Technical aspect
> Last year, we had17 remote panelists
> Baku - preparing for EuroVision - more bandwidth
> Patrik Falstrom, will help, now consulting with network infrastructure All
> are in the host country requirement
>
> For remote moderators - indications are there
> they can approach the secretariat
>
> Students will work as remote moderators, planning
> Fulltime job - not for Bernard this time
>
> We encourage you to come, to create Remote hubs
> Contact Bernard Sadaka
> Remote participation training
>
> Welcome volunteers
>
> New things to use - eTube? etc
>  we are having renewal of website
> welcome suggestions for new tools, platform
> Suggest for separate mailing list for MAG members on RP
>  if going to use tags, we have to have ontology for the tags,
>
> Challenge - need more participants
>
> Kieren
> WebX requires download software - barrier
> Nairobi - Camera is good quality
> Live-stream is very good - video works better
>
>
> Izumi
> Principle level:
> Treat "remote" participants equal to physical participants as much as
> possible.
>
> Can we overcome the Time zone - GMT -
> 10am to 6 pm there is  3 to 11 pm  in Japan
>
> Establishing a clear procedure that would encourage remote participants to
> intervene. Such a system is desirable both for those physically present in
> Geneva and those observing the meeting remotely.
>
> Good opportunity to Demonstrate the State of the art of Internet technology
>
> Is "remote" the right word?  physically in distant, yes, but philosophically
> should be close, not too remote.
>
>
> Aysha
> link with National and Regional IGFs
>
> Vladimir
> Thank you Aysha for remiding this
>
> Robert
>
> Chair
> We will implement this Host Country Agreement fully,
> Your advices and comments are very useful for us and will keep your advices
> and comments in our preparatory process. In all parts of MSH, will prepare.
> We will try together with Secretariat, you, UN DESA, all that.
>
> Vladimir
> Capacity Building Track of IGF
>
> training a day before
>
> Constance
> concentrate the effort with existing material by the community
>
> Izumi
> Just as MAG member
> On side event - be treated equally as much as possible without harming the
> prerogative of the host community too much:  GIGAnet  Human rights
> roundtable
>
>
> Anriette
>
> Paul
> thank everyone concerned
> online evaluation
>
> Boston Consulting report - Internet Economy
> 2013 - G20 -
> $1M budget for Secretariat - critical
>  we are supporting the IGF
> IGF is continue beyond the second phase
>  consensus- both in line with CSTD and others,
> CSTD useful - but also to evolve
> respect -
> appointed bit to late to MAG
> no clear opportunity for review or improvement
> it would have been more empowering -
> MAC renew process could happen earlier in future
>  right after IGF to get up to speed
> creation of Program Paper
>
> missed opportunity - to make the best use of the group here
>
> Marilyn
> Acknowledge major improvement in IGF and MAG meeting
> MAG agreed to become more open and inclusive - no longer closed
> 1) Role of MAG - think carefully about being as inclusive and concerned,
> about making sure non-MAG members and new players have every opportunity to
> fully participate Do not prioritize open space to MAG-event
>
> 2) CSTD WG on IGF
> Many of government participants and all non-gov members truly experienced
> IGF -
>
> Cecil Mccain
> As IGF evolved and MAG improves,
> had discussion with Diplo - candidate to assist
> 1)  we need to scoring tools augment current tools, objective minimum
> requirement
> 2) Data mining -
> for future IGF - to have clear picture of what impact IGF will have
>
> Izumi
> I agree with Marilyn - that MAG is tasked to facilitate - with all IGF
> community to make IGF relevant. - like CSTD WG
>
> Agree with most of what Paul said including the renewal timing of MAG,
> orientation would be very helpful.
>
> Support online evaluation - suggested multi-lingual capability seem very
> attractive
>
> Way forward - no September meeting?  any alternative measures Three times
> meeting a year? Feb, May and ??
>
> CSTD WG  -recommends better outcome message
> we don't have to wait until GA approve everything -
>  MAG as bottom-up voluntary
> I thank you all
>
> Felix
> IG is subset of most dynamic industry - ICT
>
>
> Chengetai - Final Remarks
> continue online
> (to izumi) no support for September meeting
>
> Chair
> Very fruitful meeting
> help the preparation
> Will be comfortable in Baku
> Thanks to everyone, special thanks to Secretariat
>
> MAG Meeting finished at 15:32
>
>
>
>
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