[governance] IGC Talking Points for Enhanced Cooperation workshop

Thu May 17 18:40:19 EDT 2012

Only "break a leg" theatrical slang for deliver your usual excellent
performance.
And by "performance" I'm not being snide.
I very much admire the way you always seem to find the words to be
diplomatic yet make the point strongly and clearly.
Good luck!
Deirdre

On 17 May 2012 16:42, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:

> Thanks Lee for the encouragement.
>
> The reason I brought this up even at the last minute is, as the
> co-coordinator,
> I would rather like to be criticized for what I did than what I did NOT do.
>
> Yet, if you look at the program tomorrow, there we have Anriette,
> Parminder,
> and Marilia as the speakers. Other are Mr Toure, SG of ITU, Mr. Nigel
> Hickson,
> Vice President for Europe, ICANN, Markus Kummer, and Marilyne Cade.
> So with three speakers from CS, both diverse views and also some common
> areas will be presented.
>
> After the initial one our of these prsentations, second session of 1 hour
> and
> third session of three hours are all devoted to "General Discussion" where
> I expect many attendees should be able to make comments.  I may try
> some ad hoc thing, will be careful in presenting these, not "represent" IGC
> nor present full consensus at all.
>
> Any more advices?
>
> izumi
>
>
>
> 2012/5/18 Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu>:
> > Izumi,
> >
> > Let's not get too shy all of a sudden. If you get 30 seconds to
> reiterate/reconfirm IGC's position on enhanced cooperation referencing the
> 2010 statement, that's good.
> >
> > If you get a minute then you can ad lib something more with words like
> 'democratic, global' that I'm sure IGC members would all agree on.
> >
> > I doubt we can engage the deeper dialogue on the meaning of
> multistakeholder or democratic or even reach a new consensus definition on
> enhanced cooperation, by tomorrow.
> >
> > So agreed prepping a more formal IGC text in advance is tough.
> >
> > But hey you're our co-coordinator, if you get a chance, wing it
> (American slang for - improvise) - and then we can all complain about you
> afterward ; )
> >
> > Lee
> > ________________________________________
> > From: izumiaizu at gmail.com [izumiaizu at gmail.com] on behalf of Izumi AIZU
> [iza at anr.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:58 AM
> > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder
> > Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Talking Points for Enhanced Cooperation
> workshop
> >
> > It seems that even minimal approach, or "bottom-line" is not getting
> > broad support,
> > if I am not mistaken, among IGC members. And no strong desire to make
> > a statement.
> > Being a coordinator, I am at your disposal, just try to reflect the
> > view of our caucus.
> >
> > So, unless there is some more sign of support of making short
> > statement outlined in my previous message, I will not try to make an
> > IGC statement tomorrow. (we are not sure
> > if participants will be given any slot, assuming so).
> >
> > For the record, IGC made this statement in Nov. 2010.
> >
> > http://www.igcaucus.org/node/43
> >
> > izumi
> >
> >
> > 2012/5/17 parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday 17 May 2012 01:43 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote
> >>
> >> -----------
> >> For the process towards Enhanced Cooperation, IGC like to state the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> 1. we are encouraged to see the constructive dialogue around EC is
> >> proceeding
> >>
> >> 2. our “bottom-line” is, keep the principles endorsed by the Tunis
> >> Agenda, especially, to hold to the principles of:
> >> - democratic global governance
> >> - multi-stakeholder participation, the need for IG forums where all
> >> stakeholders are equally, and effectively represented
> >>
> >>
> >> I have often tried to initiate a discussion on this list about what is
> meant
> >> by equal participation of all stakeholders in actual decision making
> >> process/ level but discussion never got too far... we first need to know
> >> what we are talking about here before asking for it..... Wolfgang and
> >> Bertrand, and i think at some time, Marilia, made the distinction on
> this
> >> list about the decision inputting and shaping and decision making
> levels/
> >> stages........  so where all do we want equal participation. Does it
> mean
> >> that a google or Microsoft rep will sign a privacy or data flow/
> protection
> >> treaty is one is to be made, and thus will have a veto on it... I am not
> >> sure what equally represented means here, so if you can clarify maybe
> we can
> >> find a good text to go with... parminder
> >>
> >> ---------
> >>
> >> Please give your feedback until tomorrow morning, Geneva Time, and I
> will
> >> do my best, together with our colleagues here in Geneva, to reflect our
> view
> >> as much as possible.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> izumi
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>                      >> Izumi Aizu <<
> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo
> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
> Japan
> www.anr.org
>
>
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