[governance] IGC Talking Points for Enhanced Cooperation workshop
Izumi AIZU
iza at anr.org
Thu May 17 16:42:06 EDT 2012
Thanks Lee for the encouragement.
The reason I brought this up even at the last minute is, as the co-coordinator,
I would rather like to be criticized for what I did than what I did NOT do.
Yet, if you look at the program tomorrow, there we have Anriette, Parminder,
and Marilia as the speakers. Other are Mr Toure, SG of ITU, Mr. Nigel Hickson,
Vice President for Europe, ICANN, Markus Kummer, and Marilyne Cade.
So with three speakers from CS, both diverse views and also some common
areas will be presented.
After the initial one our of these prsentations, second session of 1 hour and
third session of three hours are all devoted to "General Discussion" where
I expect many attendees should be able to make comments. I may try
some ad hoc thing, will be careful in presenting these, not "represent" IGC
nor present full consensus at all.
Any more advices?
izumi
2012/5/18 Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu>:
> Izumi,
>
> Let's not get too shy all of a sudden. If you get 30 seconds to reiterate/reconfirm IGC's position on enhanced cooperation referencing the 2010 statement, that's good.
>
> If you get a minute then you can ad lib something more with words like 'democratic, global' that I'm sure IGC members would all agree on.
>
> I doubt we can engage the deeper dialogue on the meaning of multistakeholder or democratic or even reach a new consensus definition on enhanced cooperation, by tomorrow.
>
> So agreed prepping a more formal IGC text in advance is tough.
>
> But hey you're our co-coordinator, if you get a chance, wing it (American slang for - improvise) - and then we can all complain about you afterward ; )
>
> Lee
> ________________________________________
> From: izumiaizu at gmail.com [izumiaizu at gmail.com] on behalf of Izumi AIZU [iza at anr.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:58 AM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder
> Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Talking Points for Enhanced Cooperation workshop
>
> It seems that even minimal approach, or "bottom-line" is not getting
> broad support,
> if I am not mistaken, among IGC members. And no strong desire to make
> a statement.
> Being a coordinator, I am at your disposal, just try to reflect the
> view of our caucus.
>
> So, unless there is some more sign of support of making short
> statement outlined in my previous message, I will not try to make an
> IGC statement tomorrow. (we are not sure
> if participants will be given any slot, assuming so).
>
> For the record, IGC made this statement in Nov. 2010.
>
> http://www.igcaucus.org/node/43
>
> izumi
>
>
> 2012/5/17 parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>:
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 17 May 2012 01:43 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote
>>
>> -----------
>> For the process towards Enhanced Cooperation, IGC like to state the
>> following:
>>
>> 1. we are encouraged to see the constructive dialogue around EC is
>> proceeding
>>
>> 2. our “bottom-line” is, keep the principles endorsed by the Tunis
>> Agenda, especially, to hold to the principles of:
>> - democratic global governance
>> - multi-stakeholder participation, the need for IG forums where all
>> stakeholders are equally, and effectively represented
>>
>>
>> I have often tried to initiate a discussion on this list about what is meant
>> by equal participation of all stakeholders in actual decision making
>> process/ level but discussion never got too far... we first need to know
>> what we are talking about here before asking for it..... Wolfgang and
>> Bertrand, and i think at some time, Marilia, made the distinction on this
>> list about the decision inputting and shaping and decision making levels/
>> stages........ so where all do we want equal participation. Does it mean
>> that a google or Microsoft rep will sign a privacy or data flow/ protection
>> treaty is one is to be made, and thus will have a veto on it... I am not
>> sure what equally represented means here, so if you can clarify maybe we can
>> find a good text to go with... parminder
>>
>> ---------
>>
>> Please give your feedback until tomorrow morning, Geneva Time, and I will
>> do my best, together with our colleagues here in Geneva, to reflect our view
>> as much as possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> izumi
>>
>>
>
>
--
>> Izumi Aizu <<
Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo
Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
Japan
www.anr.org
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