[governance] IGF Open Consultation memo, Morning, May 15

Tue May 15 21:06:32 EDT 2012

Caro Stefano,

the clarity you suggest to be achieved here is fundamental and I fully endorse your request. A wishy-washy yes-it-is-no-it-isn't statement about whether the Ministerial meeting is part of the IGF won't do. 

This also means that if it is not, every organization that decides to attend should make clear that they do so knowing that it is an IGF-related meeting but not a part of the IGF, and that they will not endorse any statement from the meeting as an outcome of the IGF since even the existence of a statement is already outside the rules of the IGF, let alone the procedural rules and the form of the multistakeholder engagement within the Ministerial.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Desde: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de Ing. Stefano Trumpy [stefano.trumpy at iit.cnr.it]
Enviado el: martes, 15 de mayo de 2012 13:47
Hasta: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Izumi AIZU
CC: Biasini Maurizio
Asunto: Re: [governance] IGF Open Consultation memo, Morning, May 15

>The morning meeting ended around 1300, here is my rough memo.
>Annotated, as it is Open consultation, but all are very sketchy.
>
>izumi

thanks Izuni, you succeed to let us (especially those that attended
at least one of these meetings) feel as we are present; I add a
consideration below concerning the so called "ministerial meeting in
the next IGF"

>
>May 15, 2012 11:25 Open Consultation starts
>
>UNDESA rep -
>Opening remarks
>over 100 workshops proposed for IGF 2012
>greater transparency, more information, contribute for better governance
>
>MR Elmir Valizda, Chair of MAG
>
>Robert Guerra
>Citizen Lab
>Update for Preparation, logistics, venue and other issues
>scarecity of details a problem -
>
>Chengetai
>Will have update, yes, just now.
>
>Constance, ISOC
>ISCO reception
>
>Question of participation of indigenes people
>rather than access to Internet, they need food, closing, shelters
>I need free and active participation from indigenes people
>
>Azerbaijan host to report:
>IGF Nov 6-9
>Nov 5 - ministerial meeting
>info on Baku/Azerbaijan
>
>All hotels (90) with reduced corporate rates, without 18% VAT
>46 hotels will be provided with shuttles
>17 hotels - no shuttles
>
>Izumi read Judy's comment:
>Physical Accessibility
>it is imperative that all locations/ venue , transport,etc is
>accessible and usable for PWD .
>
>Mervi, Finland
>Question on Ministerial Meeting
>who can participate?
>agenda?
>who are the organizer?
>
>Chair
>Mostly, ministers, but can consider to invite head of delegates

let me here to comment on this, starting from the experience in Nairobi;
the Kenyan government decided to organize this pre-IGF meeting and
invited ministers in a non homogeneous faction; it was not clear if
the meeting was for governments at the top level;
in the end the meeting has been a success and private sector and
Internet organizations had the floor; concerning non ministerial
government delegations, being part of Italian delegation headed by a
head of department, I had the chance to meet the Kenyan minister that
I knew from before and he said that of course our delegation was more
than welcomed to attend having the floor.
Since it appears that in Baku we sholud have a second experience in
this direction, this meeting should be organized in a clear way by
clarifying the following points: 1 is this event part of the IGF or
not: if not, specify the relation with IGF and give a purpose to
attract high level officials from around the world; 2 provide an
agenda and clarify possibly the multistakeholder approach; 3 define
that time slot for interventions from private sector and NGos
involved in Internet governence, etc.
I realize that I am suggesting what the local government should do
and this is inappropriate but, at least, the MAG and others should at
least make suggestioms.

Stefano

>
>Robert Guerra
>Make sure in the Host Country Agreement, for participants to feel free
>out of fear.
>
>Chair
>As Deputy minister, I will try to answer
>Registration will be happen on the IGF Website, not our own website,
>therefore, anyperson have possibility to register,
>After this information will be provide to our governmental bodies to
>issue visas and others
>About some controls; free usage of Internet
>  through fix, mobile and other
>We have some restrictions and all persons tha live and work
>inAzerbaijan and if you come - can be used these technologies - suchs
>possibilitew will be provided during IGF Balu.
>
>Peter Major
>On accessibility said by Izumi mostly
>
>Judia Okite from Kenya
>adding to accessibility, add that, ^ host country to check out hotel
>if they are accessible with PWD for making booking
>
>Host
>Our staff checked all the hotels, but did not put info on this, will
>update the hotel list with this issue as well.
>
>Felix  Samakande, new MAG, Zimbabwe
>reaction to Video - recollection of Lithuania experience
>restriction of time to speak but speak slowly for interpreter
>
>Chair
>Translation will be provided only in Main Session - not in workshops
>
>Constance, ISOC
>Mervi's question - add invitation to CEOs, Civil society members
>
>Chair
>>From Kenya, we will keep this tradtion of inviting CEO (of ICANN),
>>Civil Society
>
>Aysha
>Comment on Ministerial, participated in Kenyan Ministerial
>important to have dialogue among all stakeholders
>
>AZ Foreign Minisry
>Visa issue - in due course
>
>Participation of all organizations - take seriously, treat every singe
>delegation in a non-discriminatory soverigh-
>IF not paritcpate from soverign countries - it's their choice
>Linkage between of hosting event and allegation of freedom of
>expression and mediu,
>  it is institutional nor, insure the norm and contineus to do so
>mis-reprsented by some media-
>is very infortunate that we are taking this time to address to
>verenate the situation
>clear - emotiona accests do not add credit to the authority of the
>organizations or rpresentatives
>
>Anna, Portugal
>
>Question about Ministerial meeting
>What is man objective of this Ministerial which countries are invited?
>which Ministry?
>we are in Multi-stakeholder event - cannot be put apart
>MSH is not about big companies, but small companies, civil society, etc
>what is the purpose of this Ministerial?
>
>Chair
>Kenya, it was the first time to have Ministerial
>
>Alice - explained the Kenyan Ministerial
>  agenda - came as bottom up, discussed at East Africa IGF
>
>AZ rep
>There is discussion on how to model ministerial meeting
>  we want to hear to MAG members - which model?
>  all countries participated in ITU members - ITU has list of
>ministries - who is resposbile on Telecom, ICT InfoSoc  -sent
>invitation letter to those countries
>Involving private sector - big companies but we can invite others
>we want to modelize and find best figure - useful
>
>Address the
>your country will be responsible and delegate your officials to that meeting.
>ITU will channel this
>
>Wolfgang
>Question to DESA
>Nitin and Markus stepped down more than 2 years ago
>Can we expect that two positions will be filled at IGF in Baku?
>
>DESA
>Situation on Executive Coordinator and Special Advisor
>It was funded by IGF Trust fund, voluntary contributions, but
>regrettably, current voluntary contributions do not allow the
>recruitment of EC
>we are concerned about the absence of EC
>once new project document approved 1 year ago, received from Controller,
>90 applicants applied for the EC
>Due to the financial balance project, we still have strong negative
>balance - not able to recruit the EC
>Go to IGC Website, you can see the balance of the project document
>We just canceled the announcement of the EC, not able to continue the
>recruitment,
>
>Special Advisor - prerogative of the SG, no influence to force him to
>make the decision
>
>Anriette from APC
>On Minsterial - I think it is very useful mechanism, appreciated in Kenya -
>but IGF is different from ITU, complement each other
>IGF could take broader government and other stakeholders - on policy
>Not rely on ITU database, but to be more creative about which
>minister to invite
>Thematic focus on Ministerial - to define - then which CS and minister
>
>ON human rights, -good hear to the reassurance - ask Host country to
>make documents and ask DESA to reflect them into Host Country
>agreement
>
>Chair
>according to the procedure, the host country must sign agreement with
>UN DESA, and all issues are indicated in this agreement
>Issues on transportation, visa, equipmet, computers are fulle include
>toths agreement
>And now this is agreement - w can publish them in our website.
>
>Anna Neves, Portugal
>It is up to the host country to invite which Minister, yes. If it is
>ITU event, then invite telecom ministers. but if it is IGF, then not
>only telecom ministers.
>If you use ITU Detabase, please do not call as "IGF".
>On EC, puzzled. Strange. There is voluntary funding.
>
>Chair
>We can consider all of your proposal. During this event, you have
>possibility of contact from our delegation, you can provide some info
>on some ministries, please inform us, and we will invite these
>ministries. Please provide these.
>
>Bertrand de La Chappell
>On Visa, related to citizens of countries who may have political
>tensions and who may have difficulty - can you ensure that there will
>be no restriction.
>On EC, situation is extremely troublesome, painfully.
>It might be intentional - I don't believe that. Choice- wrong
>intensions or inefficiency - both are bad. Current situation is
>weakening the IGF.
>Chicken and Egg -we cannot hire because of funding, funding not coming
>because of uncertainty
>canceling the process - re-launching - take months
>
>MAG could, in due time, to designate its own Chair - as an option
>A voluntary desire to solve this problem
>
>DESA
>Communicated to donor community -
>we are not limiting them, trying hard
>recent situation with Google - working with lawyers, beyond control
>hope to solve this situation as soon as possible
>Recruitment process for EC
>we stay with one rule approved by member states
>no other way.
>
>Chengetai
>HCA - treated equal as UN
>
>Qusai
>Ministerial meeting - not IGF event, right?
>AZ's liberty - to organize
>
>
>LINCH Break
>
>Adam
>How many workshops are possible to be organized - how many rooms?
>
>Chengetai
>128 Workshop proposals - highest number submitted
>The venue can fit all workshops
>Do we want to have 12 workshops at the same time?
>
>Grading -
>above 12 - green
>below 12 - orange
>
>SOP  49
>Access 19
>EI, IG4D
>CIR 10%
>TS, WF  6%
>Others -
>
>Cade - how about dynamic coalitions and Open Forum?
>
>Chengetai - we need to consider them all.
>
>
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