[governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now online ...

[Milton L Mueller]

Hi, I am too busy right now to wade through these responses and respond it detail. I will do that when I have time. First advice I would give people is to read the actual paper, not just the spin doctors' responses to it. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-
> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Carlos A. Afonso
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:53 PM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; McTim
> Cc: Milton L Mueller; Robert Guerra
> Subject: Re: [governance] Cyber Dialogue 2012 / Conference details now
> online ...
> 
> OK, let us see MM's response, but for my part McT clarified the ASO-NRO
> logic. After creation of NRO, I wondered why ASO was still in place, now
> I see there a close intertwining.
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 03/11/2012 01:38 PM, McTim wrote:
> > On 3/11/12, Milton L Mueller<mueller at syr.edu>  wrote:
> >> For those interested, I was invited to contribute a paper on some
> >> aspect of stewardship, and chose IP addressing.
> >> http://www.cyberdialogue.citizenlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/2012p
> >> apers/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf
> >
> > a few factual innaccuracies:
> >
> > "The NRO's status as the ASO in ICANN's cor- porate governance
> > structure allows the RIRs'
> > chief executives to appoint people directly to the ICANN board, and
> > also allows it to place people on ICANN's nominating committee,"
> >
> >
> > is incorrect, it's the ASO AC that actually chooses see:
> >
> > http://aso.icann.org/people/icann-board-elections/2012-elections/
> >
> > and:
> >
> > "While some of the RIRs
> > still have some available supplies"
> >
> > seems to indicate that some RIRs do not.  I don't think this is the
> case.
> >
> > and:
> >
> > 'The ASO of ICANN is nothing more than the NRO, and the NRO is nothing
> > more than a com- bination of the staff and CEOs of the RIRs.'
> >
> > This is not true either.  The ASO AC are elected folk from the RIR
> > communities.  They make the decisions, the NRO act as the secretariat
> > to support them.
> >
> > and:
> >
> > "With the Internet well established as the dominant data
> > communications protocol and a globalized institutional framework in
> > place
> > (ICANN) there is no longer any political reason to delegate address
> > allocation to regions. "
> >
> > There is, folks in different regions still want to have regional
> > policies even after v4 depletion.
> >
> > Come to the Gambia in May and tell the AfriNIC Policy Development
> > Working Group that we will be obsolete after v6 deployment, I'm sure
> > most would disagree.
> >
> >


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