[governance] IGF 2012 - CIR?

Mon Mar 5 22:53:22 EST 2012

You can't have an unfettered market until the framework for transfers is harmonized and globalized across RIRs.
The issue of legacy holders' rights needs to be settled. The way for inter-regional transfers needs to be cleared. A strong ASO or process for making global policies, which usually fails in the RIR system, needs to be created. And so on.
See you at the ASO meeting in CR!

--MM

From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 3:19 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller
Cc: William Drake; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se; Carlos A. Afonso; IGF Members
Subject: Re: [governance] IGF 2012 - CIR?

Hi Milton,

On Monday, March 5, 2012, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu<mailto:mueller at syr.edu>> wrote:
> If they discuss IPv6, they must also discuss the emergence of trading markets for scarce IPv4 addresses, which is actually the only relevant policy issue at the moment and one which actually (unlike 90% of what is now discussed at IGF) something that requires global coordination and governance.
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Exactly what global coordination and governance do you mean?

I thought you were a proponent of an unfettered v4 market!?

Rgds,

McTim

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> Naturally I'd put myself forward as someone who both knows something about that issue and would offer a refreshing alternative reality-check to what you are likely to get from certain other sources.
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> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org<mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org<mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org>] On Behalf Of William Drake
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:31 AM
> To: igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se<mailto:igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se>
> Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se<mailto:igf-cir at lists.frobbit.se>; IGF Members; governance at lists.igcaucus.org<mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
> Subject: [governance] Re: [cir] [igf_members] IGF 2012 - CIR?
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> Hi Tulika
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>  There is a MAG + working group that is actively debating the topics and questions for the CIR session.  Jennifer Warren of Lockheed Corp, Is the facilitator. The discussion unfortunately has fallen short of being consensual, with Avri and I arguing for inclusion of the WCIT and other geopolitical topics like enhanced cooperation, contentious string selection, and jurisdiction and extraterritoriality (SOPA, ICE, etc) we think are likely to be of broad interest in November, while business folks have been less receptive to these matters and are plumping instead for more narrow gauge and technical topics like Internet of Things, IPv6 (again!), migration of resources to IP nets, and spectrum/mobile. I don't know Where this end up, but my hope is that we can arrive at a balanced compromise on four topics that gives each side a bit of what it wants,  the government reps on the list have been silent, and it would be helpful to hear their thoughts either way.  Since you are not on the (still active) 2011 MAG I don't know if you can join, but you might try,  otherwise I'd be happy to pass along any statements from you as inputs.
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> Best
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> Bill
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> On Mar 2, 2012, at 18:02, TULIKA PANDEY <tulika at nic.in<mailto:tulika at nic.in>> wrote:
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> Dear All,
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> I would like to hear some response to Carlos's concerns and inputs for the CIR session as I tend to agree with all his suggestions, especially his inputs on ITU initiatives.
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> Tulika Pandey
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> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca<mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>> wrote:
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> Dear people,
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> The February synthesis paper of the open consultations published in the
> IGF official site mentions the following regarding "critical Internet
> resources":
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> --- begin doc citation ---
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> 25. In terms of Critical Internet Resources it was seen by several
> commentators that further debate is needed around issues such as the
> institutional structure of IG, including the future of ICANN, IP
> addressing, root servers and Internet exchange points.
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> 26. Several suggestions were made for the Critical Internet Issues
> theme, including, inter alia;
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> * Best Practices for eliminating barriers to access to the Internet;
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> * IPv6 and the impact and opportunities for the developing world that
> may result from the transition to IPv6 and how does the coming depletion
> of IPv4 addresses affect developing countries?
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> * What is the effect of the deployment of multilingual domain names,
> i.e. IDN.IDN?
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> * Issues of ICANN's naming policy and the impact of the new gTLDs and
> IDN gTLDs;
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> * Technical issues such as DNS blocking and how such technical issues
> drive or impact policy.
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> --- end doc citation ---
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> In light of the ongoing ITU process leading to WCIT 2012 aiming at,
> among other goals, radically revising the 1988 ITR to try to take
> account of the ICT challenges posed by the Internet, I think the above
> points are far from sufficient.
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> At a minimum, IGF's CIR "track" should include a review of the ITU
> meetings' outcomes.
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> fraternal regards
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> --c.a.
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> Tulika Pandey
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Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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