[governance] [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?

[David Conrad]

On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:55 AM, parminder wrote:
>> I was actually looking for a concrete (ideally peer-reviewed) proposal or, more preferably, an operational example or prototype, not an outline of lofty goals or possible models.  Does such exist?
> In socio-political arena, the method of seeking 'solutions' or the 'way forward'  normally is that we first try to agree on larger ideas and principles, [...]

So, I take it your answer to my question is "no" :-).

> Those approaching this debate from the technical side must respect this general method as they want their method of deciding on technical issues respected.

Actually, I suspect folks from 'the technical side' don't actually care _how_ a solution is arrived at, rather they care that the arrived at solution (a) solves the identified problem(s) and (b) can actually be implemented. Without a concrete proposal (regardless of how it is arrived at), it is difficult to establish either (a) or (b), so I suspect 'the technical side' will have a bit of reluctance going along.

> More or less what the US gov does in relation to CIR management. 

Unfortunately, I'm still unclear what you believe this to be. For example, you seem to believe the "oversight" body can arbitrarily muck with the contents of the root zone. Can you be specific as to what you believe the role of the "international oversight mechanism" actually is?

> No, it doesnt happen that way at all. Host country agreement and the authorising international law are there precisely to prevent such a thing.

Since I'm ignorant of international law, just to clarify: you're saying that a "host country agreement" will prevent a sovereign nation that is hosting the operational arm of the "international oversight mechanism" from unilaterally acting in what it considers its best interests?  That is, that a country would be prevented from choosing to ignore treaty obligations?

Regards,
-drc

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