[governance] RE: FW: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?

[michael gurstein]

One thing I've noticed in the course of these IG discussions is that while
technical people seem to assume that all issues concerning the Internet will
be determined by technical people on technical grounds, non-technical people
assume that non-technical issues (at least) will be determined by
non-technical (policy) people for whom the perception of the issue (and its
broader context) is very much more important than the reality or not of the
technical circumstances.

As per the below--identifying a particular argument/person/position as
"ignorant" may for technical people be understood as the end of the
argument--for non-technical people such an observation is rather the
beginning since it means that the other party, needs to be
informed/educated/persuaded/understood before one can move on. 

To ignore or dismiss someone's position because they are "ignorant" (or
whatever) in non-technical areas (at least) is extremely dangerous since
without some intervention it is quite likely that they will act on the basis
of that "ignorance" with quite unpredictable and potentially extremely
damaging consequences.

M

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:bortzmeyer at internatif.org] 
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Subject: Re: FW: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous
Internet" ?


> Even if we know that "root servers" are very well distributed across 
> the world / countries trough a collaborative system, chinese see this 
> as a "central control".

I'm always amazed by the amount of ignorance in some people in governance
discussions. Google's servers are "well distributed across the world", even
more than the DNS root name servers. Does it mean they are not centrally
controlled by Google?

The root zone can be modified (even for small technical changes) only when
there is an express approval by the US governement. Isn't it "central
control"? Pretending that the physical location of root name servers
diminishes this control is quite ridiculous.


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