[governance] About Facebook blocked and content removed in Brazil

Tue Jun 5 06:56:29 EDT 2012

Facebook isn't public. It's a private site with terms and conditions to
which one agrees before joining.

One term is  - no children under 13 allowed to join. Another one of those
Terms is no nudity. Period. Facebook has taken down pics of mothers
breastfeeding, children frolicking, all sorts of other
non-controversial subjects. But that's their prerogative. It's their
website.  If you want to join Facebook, you follow their rules. You don't
follow their rules, they throw you out, block your profile. And they can.

It's not censorship or anything like that. It has nothing to do with the
media, with what children can or cannot see, with "community standards" or
global morality. It has to do with Mr. Zuckerberg and his staff, and what
they want posted on their website and what they don't want posted on their
website.

I think people really forget that Facebook isn't a public common, but a
privately owned website (despite the IPO, it's still a privately owned
domain, just owned by more people now)

Jacqueline A. Morris
Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Rui Correia <correia.rui at gmail.com> wrote:

> I tried to go through the posts, but found very little of any use.
>
> Perhaps most people are gogetting that Facebook is a public place,
> with children of all ages participating everyday.
>
> If you watch tv, whatever you watch comes with an age rating and an
> advisory block to the parent/ adult about language, nudity, violence,
> sex, etc. That person can then act accordingly. Subscription channels
> come with parental controI mechanismc. In a cinema, you will not be
> allowed in with your 7-year-old in tow to watch an adult/ R-rated/
> X-rated movie.
>
> And as someone has been trying to point out all along, FB is viewed
> around the world.
>
> I am against censorship of all sorts, but we seem to be forgetting the
> basic test of 'shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theatre'.
>
> So, for all of you shouting sensorship, how do you suggest that
> Facebook protect a young child from images that HIS PARENTS would not
> want him/ her to see?
>
> The last image below says "I am a slut" (in the context of the
> translation of "Slut Walk"/ Marcha das Vadias"). It is perfecty fine
> as an instrument of protest - but I doubt that woman in picture would
> show it to her own young children.
>
> A few examples from the "Marchas das Vadias".
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/juperestrelo/7288652922/
> http://www.bluebus.com.br/afotos/marcha_das_vadias_censurada_facebook.jpg
> http://latuffcartoons.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/marcha-das-vadias1.gif
> http://blogay.blogfolha.uol.com.br/files/2012/05/151836-970x600-1.jpg
>
>
> On 30 May 2012 17:32, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Last weekend a feminist march took place in several cities in Brazil. It
> is
> > called "March of Bitches" (Marcha das Vadias) and it is an international
> > movement that was born in Canada. Some women decided to March wearing
> > lingerie or with naked breasts as a way to call attention to violence
> > against women, women's liberty and sexual rights and they posted their
> own
> > pictures in Facebook. Their pictures were removed and their profile was
> > blocked.
> >
> > So, let me get this right: Brazilian media publishes the pictures from
> the
> > protest, in a sign that this would not at all hurt the average citizen.
> But
> > Facebook (the platform where most of the use of the Internet is,
> > unfortunately, converging to) gets to decide what people can or cannot
> show
> > in their albums; what is pornography, and where to draw the line of
> > morality. It has been reported in Brazil that Facebook is also blocking
> old
> > pictures from well known artists that display naked people, and pictures
> > from little girls aged 3-4 posted by their parents, because they were not
> > wearing shirts.
> >
> > This seems a very undemocratic, opaque and potentially dangerous way of
> > conducting Internet governance. The news (in Portuguese) and one of the
> > controversial pictures can be accessed
> > here:
> http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/tec/1097488-facebook-bloqueia-usuarias-que-aparecem-seminuas-em-fotos-da-marcha-das-vadias.shtml
> >
> > Marília
> >
> >
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