RES: [governance] FW: Our internet is at risk

Todd Glassey tglassey at certichron.com
Sun Jun 3 22:27:42 EDT 2012


On 6/3/2012 7:38 AM, Vanda UOL wrote:
> Totally agree with Avri too. ITU has a relevant part in telecommunications
> around the word, so shall have, as well other interested parts, a voice in
> the internet governance, what we cannot agree is to leave the civil society
> without a less voice than all other stakeholders controlled by  governments.
> Civil society is so large that their voice shall have a preponderant
> participation on this governance to  guarantee the different voices CS has
> to be heard.l.

The ITU is a technology standards entity and putting its nose into the 
politics about what the Internet is and what it provides is probably not 
terribly smart for them IMHO.

T
>   Relating to you question Izumi, from my point of view, we only regret from
> things that we do not have done. Even if mistakes  can be made in the
> process, better than do nothing to prove your point.
> We had last Friday a very interesting  vote, from the Tribunal that controls
> the government accountability to the public, about the Nic.br and its
> multistakeholder  Board ( unhappily in Portuguese, but  if someone wants to
> read I will be please to send it) but the concludes ( free translation):
> "
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] Em nome de Izumi AIZU
> Enviada em: sexta-feira, 1 de junho de 2012 19:44
> Para: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Avri Doria
> Assunto: Re: [governance] FW: Our internet is at risk
>
> I very much agree with Avri's idea expressed here.
> That gives me a question, as a co-coordinator.
>
> Should IGC prepare for WCIT, try to participate and make noise, woops,
> statement, in time?
>
> Do we have consensus, or any person to lead that?
>
> If we do not start early enough, I guess, we may be consumed by IGF in Baku,
> etc, and then by the time we notice this, it could be too late, I am afraid.
>
> izumi
>
>
>
> 2012/6/1 Avri Doria<avri at acm.org>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have always had trouble with this dichotomy:
>>
>> - don't participate to avoid giving legitimacy
>> - participate and stop something from happening
>>
>> While I object to WCIT attempt to take over Internet Governance, I am not
> quite ready to say that the ITU has no role in telecommunications.   Or even
> that they have no voice in multistakeholder participatory democratic
> modalities on Internet Governance.  they too get a voice.
>>
>> And if the ITU has a voice and role, then civil society must be part of
> that voice.
>>
>> So the demand for civil society participation in ITU sectors and in WCIT
> deliberations remains an overall good in my mind.
>>
>> I do understand that ITU would use the press to make any participation
> seem like capitulation to their power grab.  So for any civil society group
> that does particpate, making sure the press knows why you are participating
> becomes critical.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 May 2012, at 10:46, Koven Ronald wrote:
>>
>>>  From my standpoint. this approach widely misses the point.
>>>
>>> The ITU should be told to back off because Internet users don't want or
> need oversight by a UN agency controlled by its member governments.
>>>
>>> Telling ITU that we want to be part of its negotiation process concedes
> beforehand the idea that the ITU's bid to become the global Interent
> oversight body is legitimate.
>>>
>>> Asking to attend the ITU review meeting is a different matter, but asking
> to be included in the negotiating process -- even implicitly -- is a
> recognition that such a negotiation is acceptable.
>>>
>>> The phrase in this text,  "Civil society needs a voice in the ITU
> negotiations," in effect concedes the point beforehand. It means the game
> would be over before it even got started.
>>>
>>> Bests, Rony Koven, European Representative, World Press Freedom
>>> Committee
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: michael gurstein<gurstein at gmail.com>
>>> To: governance<governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>>> Sent: Thu, May 31, 2012 4:13 pm
>>> Subject: [governance] FW: Our internet is at risk
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Access Now [mailto:access at accessnow.org]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:26 AM
>>> To: Michael Gurstein
>>> Subject: Our internet is at risk
>>>
>>>
>>> Countries like China and Russia are trying to expand the power of a
> closed UN body to give governments more control over the internet. Tell the
> ITU we don't want it deciding the future of the internet and to make its
> plans public!
>>>
>>> Michael,
>>> The internet we’ve come to know and love -- one that's open,
> decentralized, and governed by many stakeholders -- is threatened.
>>>
>>> Right now, several countries, including China and Russia, are proposing
> to expand the powers of a non-transparent global institution, the
> International Telecommunication Union (ITU), allowing it to change the rules
> on how our internet is used and governed. And what's worse, the ITU won't
> even release their negotiating documents to the public or give internet
> users a seat at the table.
>>> The ITU isn't used to public accountability, but together we can change
> that. Let's tell the ITU that we don't want a secretive body where only
> governments have a vote deciding the future of our internet!
>>> Click here to sign the petition demanding the ITU makes its plans public
> and we'll work on delivering the petition at their next planning meeting.
>>> The ITU gives every country one vote -- that's why it’s crucial we call
> upon our individual governments to support our cause. Multi-stakeholder
> governance of the internet is one of the reasons we can so easily access
> sites around the world, share with our friends on social networks, and
> participate in a global community.
>>> Now, with the ITU renegotiating a new treaty this year, China, Russia,
> and others are pushing proposals that would give governments greater control
> over how you access the internet. Imagine how that might impact your
> privacy, security, and freedom of speech online.
>>> The ITU has played an important role in telecommunications and spectrum
> management and its use for development, but this is not cause for expanding
> its mandate. While an evolution of internet governance is needed (including
> an examination of the role of the US), it should evolve in the same way that
> it was originally designed -- in an open, decentralized, and inclusive
> manner.
>>>
>>> Civil society needs a voice in the ITU negotiations. We've cosigned a
> letter with other organizations including the CDT (USA), CIS (India), FGV
> (Brazil), EFF (USA), and EIPR (Egypt) urging all stakeholders to be a part
> of this process and for the ITU to be transparent in their negotiations.
>>> Click here to join us in our call to keep the ITU from regulating the
> internet, publicly release its plans, and respect our role in the internet's
> future by signing the petition below.
>>> In solidarity,
>>> The Access Team
>>> For more information:
>>> Civil Society urges openness, multi-stakeholder process for WCIT ITU
>>> Move to Expand Powers Threatens the Internet Hey ITU Member States:
>>> No More Secrecy, Release the Treaty Proposals Access is an
>>> international NGO that promotes open access to the internet as a
>>> means to free, full and safe participation in society and the
>>> realization of human rights. To help protect the internet around the
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>                          >>  Izumi Aizu<<
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>            Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo
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>             Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
>                                    Japan
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