RES: [governance] FW: Our internet is at risk

Vanda UOL vanda at uol.com.br
Sun Jun 3 10:41:32 EDT 2012 

Continuing free translation. From previous email...
 
"It would be a setback for the system that has been successfully operated by
CGI.br  and NIC.br ( multistakeholder board)  by such a radical change ( be
controlled by government)  and, I believe, would not lead to satisfactory
results for society. More,  it could bring too much bureaucracy, increased
costs and interference, then yes, of all kinds, totally undesirable for the
process and for the entire society - is the tribunal vote".



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-----Mensagem original-----
De: Vanda UOL [mailto:vanda at uol.com.br] 
Enviada em: domingo, 3 de junho de 2012 11:38
Para: 'governance at lists.igcaucus.org'; 'Izumi AIZU'; 'Avri Doria'
Assunto: RES: [governance] FW: Our internet is at risk

Totally agree with Avri too. ITU has a relevant part in telecommunications
around the word, so shall have, as well other interested parts, a voice in
the internet governance, what we cannot agree is to leave the civil society
without a less voice than all other stakeholders controlled by  governments.
Civil society is so large that their voice shall have a preponderant
participation on this governance to  guarantee the different voices CS has
to be heard.
 Relating to you question Izumi, from my point of view, we only regret from
things that we do not have done. Even if mistakes  can be made in the
process, better than do nothing to prove your point. 
We had last Friday a very interesting  vote, from the Tribunal that controls
the government accountability to the public, about the Nic.br and its
multistakeholder  Board ( unhappily in Portuguese, but  if someone wants to
read I will be please to send it) but the concludes ( free translation):
"

-----Mensagem original-----
De: izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] Em nome de Izumi AIZU
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 1 de junho de 2012 19:44
Para: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Avri Doria
Assunto: Re: [governance] FW: Our internet is at risk

I very much agree with Avri's idea expressed here.
That gives me a question, as a co-coordinator.

Should IGC prepare for WCIT, try to participate and make noise, woops,
statement, in time?

Do we have consensus, or any person to lead that?

If we do not start early enough, I guess, we may be consumed by IGF in Baku,
etc, and then by the time we notice this, it could be too late, I am afraid.

izumi



2012/6/1 Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>:
> Hi,
>
> I have always had trouble with this dichotomy:
>
> - don't participate to avoid giving legitimacy
> - participate and stop something from happening
>
> While I object to WCIT attempt to take over Internet Governance, I am not
quite ready to say that the ITU has no role in telecommunications.   Or even
that they have no voice in multistakeholder participatory democratic
modalities on Internet Governance.  they too get a voice.
>
> And if the ITU has a voice and role, then civil society must be part of
that voice.
>
> So the demand for civil society participation in ITU sectors and in WCIT
deliberations remains an overall good in my mind.
>
> I do understand that ITU would use the press to make any participation
seem like capitulation to their power grab.  So for any civil society group
that does particpate, making sure the press knows why you are participating
becomes critical.
>
> avri
>
>
>
>
> On 31 May 2012, at 10:46, Koven Ronald wrote:
>
>> From my standpoint. this approach widely misses the point.
>>
>> The ITU should be told to back off because Internet users don't want or
need oversight by a UN agency controlled by its member governments.
>>
>> Telling ITU that we want to be part of its negotiation process concedes
beforehand the idea that the ITU's bid to become the global Interent
oversight body is legitimate.
>>
>> Asking to attend the ITU review meeting is a different matter, but asking
to be included in the negotiating process -- even implicitly -- is a
recognition that such a negotiation is acceptable.
>>
>> The phrase in this text,  "Civil society needs a voice in the ITU
negotiations," in effect concedes the point beforehand. It means the game
would be over before it even got started.
>>
>> Bests, Rony Koven, European Representative, World Press Freedom 
>> Committee
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
>> To: governance <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>> Sent: Thu, May 31, 2012 4:13 pm
>> Subject: [governance] FW: Our internet is at risk
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Access Now [mailto:access at accessnow.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:26 AM
>> To: Michael Gurstein
>> Subject: Our internet is at risk
>>
>>
>> Countries like China and Russia are trying to expand the power of a
closed UN body to give governments more control over the internet. Tell the
ITU we don't want it deciding the future of the internet and to make its
plans public!
>>
>> Michael,
>> The internet we’ve come to know and love -- one that's open,
decentralized, and governed by many stakeholders -- is threatened.
>>
>> Right now, several countries, including China and Russia, are proposing
to expand the powers of a non-transparent global institution, the
International Telecommunication Union (ITU), allowing it to change the rules
on how our internet is used and governed. And what's worse, the ITU won't
even release their negotiating documents to the public or give internet
users a seat at the table.
>> The ITU isn't used to public accountability, but together we can change
that. Let's tell the ITU that we don't want a secretive body where only
governments have a vote deciding the future of our internet!
>> Click here to sign the petition demanding the ITU makes its plans public
and we'll work on delivering the petition at their next planning meeting.
>> The ITU gives every country one vote -- that's why it’s crucial we call
upon our individual governments to support our cause. Multi-stakeholder
governance of the internet is one of the reasons we can so easily access
sites around the world, share with our friends on social networks, and
participate in a global community.
>> Now, with the ITU renegotiating a new treaty this year, China, Russia,
and others are pushing proposals that would give governments greater control
over how you access the internet. Imagine how that might impact your
privacy, security, and freedom of speech online.
>> The ITU has played an important role in telecommunications and spectrum
management and its use for development, but this is not cause for expanding
its mandate. While an evolution of internet governance is needed (including
an examination of the role of the US), it should evolve in the same way that
it was originally designed -- in an open, decentralized, and inclusive
manner.
>>
>> Civil society needs a voice in the ITU negotiations. We've cosigned a
letter with other organizations including the CDT (USA), CIS (India), FGV
(Brazil), EFF (USA), and EIPR (Egypt) urging all stakeholders to be a part
of this process and for the ITU to be transparent in their negotiations.
>> Click here to join us in our call to keep the ITU from regulating the
internet, publicly release its plans, and respect our role in the internet's
future by signing the petition below.
>> In solidarity,
>> The Access Team
>> For more information:
>> Civil Society urges openness, multi-stakeholder process for WCIT ITU 
>> Move to Expand Powers Threatens the Internet Hey ITU Member States:
>> No More Secrecy, Release the Treaty Proposals Access is an 
>> international NGO that promotes open access to the internet as a 
>> means to free, full and safe participation in society and the 
>> realization of human rights. To help protect the internet around the 
>> world, you can donate to Access. To reply, please email 
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