[governance] East Africa IGF - day 2, discussion of ITRs

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Thu Jul 19 13:05:19 EDT 2012


On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
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>
> On Thursday 19 July 2012 07:03 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>
>
> Sorry, Parminder, I would say APrIGF is not in the ideal state of
> transparency and openess, but to me the way I like to see is of mutual
> constructive engagement and dialogue. And you have not responded to some of
> my replies such as why you did not send us the reminder. izumi
>
>
> Let me get the sensitivity issue sorted first, becuase I have many more
> probing questions to ask from the organisers of this event.
>
> Izumi,
>
> I think you should give up this defensiveness and blaming me for not being
> constructive and friendly, and simply address the issues at hand. One, as I
> have said I have been raising the same issues for three years now, and while
> IT for Change is a significant player in IG civil society space from Asia,
> we have refused to participate in this supposedly regional IGF even against
> funded invitations, and every time we have made our concerns and
> reservations clear, and done so in detail. What other constructiveness do
> you want from us.



You could have raised the funds from non-biz sources, thus removing the
need to ask the biz community for funding.


>
> I think Peng Hwa must clarify this issue at this stage, on how consistently
> we have raised the same issues and how consistently have they been
> completely ignored, even when promises were made that they would be
> addressed.
>
> We are into IG work professionally, on behalf of the interests of certain
> constituencies. Do you expect us to just sit quite so that some feathers are
> not ruffled, and people's sensitivities not touched. In Baku, one of the
> organisers of what is being called as the regional AP IGF is going to
> solemnly get up and read some stuff as expressing what has come bottom-up
> from the Asia Pacific region. To that extent that person would be purporting
> to represent me/us among others.

S/He would be purporting to represent the views of the folk who did take part.

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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