[governance] East Africa IGF - day 2, discussion of ITRs

[karim.attoumanimohamed at ties.itu.int]

Dear all,

Where can we access materials and guides to follow while we'd like to  
rganize a national or regional IGF.
I'd help to try to adress a GAP in my country (Comoros) and region  
(Indian Ocean Comunity) as till now we are not considered as eastern  
africa members.

Thank you

Karim, Comoros

Quoting Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org>:

> Hi,
>
>>
>> As for involving the UN Regional commission, I did not know you have
>> asked for that. I checked online, and found no evidence. Sorry. And
>> while I do not mind seeking their involvement for coming years, I am
>> not sure if that is essential for claiming regional IGF.>
>>
>> I did not say it is essential for claiming regional IGF, because i have no
>> idea what is essential for claiming regional IGF. But by your statement you
>> seem to have some idea about what may be essential to claim an IGF. Can you
>> please tell us about it.
>
> A few years ago,when we are trying to organize IGF Japan, I asked
> Markus what are the criteria to host an National IGF. The answer that
> time
> was " There is no fixed standard nor process to recognize natoinal or
> regional IGF. Just be open and multi-stakeholder".  I have not seen
> any explicit process or even discussion about the definition of regional and
> national IGFs.
>
> We tried to be as open and multi-stakeholder as possible. Have we
> reached to the level? It depends.
>
>>
>> If by some stroke of luck (going against the structure and political economy
>> of luck in this area), IT for Change landed funds enough to organise an
>> international event, and we chose to call it the Asia Pacific regional IGF
>> and called some civil society persons, and some government guys, and some
>> small businesses, and maybe forgot big global businesses, etc etc... would
>> it work in your opinion or not. Or would it be considered impermissible to
>> claim regional IGF. What criterion we must fulfil for as you put it for
>> 'claiming regional IGF'. Just asking.
>
> I think arguing in this hypothetical manner is not quite constructive.
> If one camp wants to organize a regional IGF, make it known
> sufficiently well in advance, and if someone is not happy about this,
> bring that
> and discuss. I agree that I did not respond to your email in April. But
> you also did not raise this again until today. As far as I am aware
> no one else from the region brought this kind of issue to any of organizers.
> We sent out call for participation, for the first time for APrIGF. The
> publicity was not as quick as we wanted to be, in part due lack of
> funding.
> I think most funding support came at the last minute, but I am not
> directly involved in the fund-raising part nor the secretariat at all,
> so I might be wrong.
>
> We sent general notice or invitations to most governments via ICANN
> GAC and other channel formal and informal and received a few
> responses.
>
> izumi
>
>>
>> parminder
>>
>>   At least, we
>> have not heard any request from either IGF secretariat, or government
>> members we have contacted directly and indirectly, nor any civil
>> society members in this region.
>>
>> I again apologize, but am not sure that missing a single response be
>> interpreted
>> as evidence of non-transparency. That, to me, is exaggerating the things and
>> not
>> helpful for constructive dialogue.  If you take your request that
>> seriously, I wonder why you have not reminded me one more time before
>> making this assertion. If I were you, I would have sent a friendly
>> reminder, before making such unilateral criticism.
>>
>> izumi
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/19 parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>:
>>
>> On Thursday 19 July 2012 09:18 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>>
>> Hi Adam and all,
>>
>> Asia Pacific regional IGF, is also ongoing since yesterday, for three days.
>>
>>
>> Dear Izumi and Peng Hwa,
>>
>> My best wishes for the meeting. However, that reminds me that when you
>> announced this so called regional IGF I has asked you for a few
>> clarification vide my email to the IGC on 25th April (enclosed and also
>> content cut pasted below). I am surprised that as the main organisers
>> neither you nor Peng Hwa considered it necessary on



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