[governance] East Africa IGF - day 2, discussion of ITRs

Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org
Thu Jul 19 04:55:14 EDT 2012


Dear Parminder,

I was bit surprised to see your note below.
First, I offer my apology for not responding to your earlier email on Apr 25.
I honestly to not remember why I ignored your request, or put it more directly,
I have little  memory about your request. I did not intend to ignore, but yes,
in essence I ignored your request. I am sorry. I can come up with my excuses,
when you sent that to the list, I was on the road, etc. That does not
count, I know.

However, when it comes to the substance of your request, asking for
clarification of the organizers, I already mentioned that it was led by JAIPA,
the ISP association. About the funding, that time, it was very unclear even
for us who and how we could manage the necessary funding. Now, today,
you can see the list of sponsors, largely industry yes. Our government put
not money at all.

As for involving the UN Regional commission, I did not know you have
asked for that. I checked online, and found no evidence. Sorry. And
while I do not mind seeking their involvement for coming years, I am
not sure if that is essential for claiming regional IGF.  At least, we
have not heard any request from either IGF secretariat, or government
members we have contacted directly and indirectly, nor any civil
society members in this region.

I again apologize, but am not sure that missing a single response be interpreted
as evidence of non-transparency. That, to me, is exaggerating the things and not
helpful for constructive dialogue.  If you take your request that
seriously, I wonder why you have not reminded me one more time before
making this assertion. If I were you, I would have sent a friendly
reminder, before making such unilateral criticism.

izumi


2012/7/19 parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>:
>
>
> On Thursday 19 July 2012 09:18 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>
> Hi Adam and all,
>
> Asia Pacific regional IGF, is also ongoing since yesterday, for three days.
>
>
> Dear Izumi and Peng Hwa,
>
> My best wishes for the meeting. However, that reminds me that when you
> announced this so called regional IGF I has asked you for a few
> clarification vide my email to the IGC on 25th April (enclosed and also
> content cut pasted below). I am surprised that as the main organisers
> neither you nor Peng Hwa considered it necessary on answer my queries.
> par minder
>
> Disclosure: I was invited for the meeting but refused to attend because of
> its overly business ownership, and non transparency as inter alia evident in
> not responding to my direct questions about the event. I have been trying to
> persuade the organisers for three years now to make the event more open and
> inclusive, especially for more marginalised groups etc . And among other
> things invite the Asia Pacific UN regional  commission to be part of the
> meeting as Latin American and African regional IGFs have done. But this has
> been to no avail.
>
> Below is the content of my email of the 25th April.
>
> Dear Izumi
>
> Can you proffer more information on who is organising this meeting, who is
> is funding it etc...
>
> In general, as you know, I am quite against policy dialogue forums (which I
> understand this meeting is supposed to be, taking from the UN IGF) being
> organised primarily by the business sector, especially when such a forum
> claims a monopoly and therefore authoritative position, which is implied in
> the name of 'the' 'Asia Pacific regional IGF'.
>
> Mine is a somewhat unpleasant task of raising what may appear to be
> difficult question with regard to sincere and hard work being put in by
> people like you and Peng Hwa, both of whom I greatly respect. But all of us,
> most of all civil society, must be subject to accountability and to hard
> questions when required. So, my apologies for that. However, I do request an
> open discussion on the subject here in the IGC.
>
> I do not think that you would much look forward to a time when the policies
> that determine what education our children will have, and how, will be
> determined by processes led by private companies in the business of digital
> content, educational software etc. Do you? Or, to a time when our health
> policies will be determined by processes led by big pharma companies and
> private hospital chains. However, what is being done in Internet governance
> today is precisely and inescapably leading us towards such a model of
> governance and policy making. To that extent, we will have to take
> responsibility for our actions. I am merely trying to take responsibility
> for mine in raising these questions at this time. And I look forward to your
> responses. Apologies once again if this is inconvenient and/ or an incursion
> on your busy time.
>
> regards, parminder
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
                     >> Izumi Aizu <<
Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo
Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
Japan
www.anr.org

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