[governance] fukushima disaster report

[parminder]

Even after a review board is constituted, it has to work within the 
guidelines issues by the ICANN Board, which could be whatever, and could 
perhaps even change/ adapt.... The first task of the review team is 
given as

    "Reviewing and adopting the review processes in accordance with
    guidelines issued by the Board following the ongoing public
    consultation phase; "

Doesnt look like oversight to me. Unclear who is overseeing whom, the 
review teams overseeing ICANN or ICANN overseeing the review teams.

parminder

On Monday 09 July 2012 04:36 PM, parminder wrote:
> On Sunday 08 July 2012 10:35 PM, John Curran wrote:
>> On Jul 8, 2012, at 10:48 AM, parminder wrote:
>>
>>> (snip)
>>
>> Parminder -
>>   Could you elaborate on why you view the present AoC-based review
>>   mechanisms as not being "independent and outside" of ICANN?  Also,
>>   are there particular improvements you would suggest to improve the
>>   independence of same?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>
> John
>
> In his blog, Milton described accountability under AoC rather 
> interestingly :) 
> (http://www.internetgovernance.org/2012/05/04/accountability-under-the-affirmation-of-commitments/ 
> )
>
>         ASO to NRO: we need to be reviewed!
>
>         NRO to ASO: don’t worry, I’ll do it
>
>         NRO to ITEMS: here’s some money, do a review
>
>         ITEMS to ASO: We talked to both heads, here’s your report
>         <http://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/ASO-Review-Report-2012.pdf>!
>
>         ASO and NRO: We are now reviewing your review report! Here are
>         our comments
>         <http://www.nro.net/news/joint-nro-aso-ac-response-to-aso-review-report>
>
>         ITEMS, NRO and ASO: Splendid! Let’s have tea!
>
>
> You can see that review boards are filled by nominees of ICANN 
> supporting structures, so I dont know why you ask me what I mean by 
> 'independent and outside' review.
>
> Well, even applying ICANN's standards elsewhere, in its bylaws dealing 
> with independent review through ICDR's independent arbitration rules, 
> would be a good start. To quote
>
>     Independent from ICANN (i.e., not an ICANN employee; not a regular
>     participant in ICANN's processes; not a member of any ICANN
>     Sponsoring Organization or Advisory Committee; not affiliated with
>     any registrar or registry holding a contract with ICANN).  (
>     http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/mechanisms-experts-eoi-11mar12-en.htm
>     )
>
> This I would say is the least. And AoC review boards clearly do not 
> conform even to this standard of 'independence' from the ICANN. So who 
> is reviewing whom?
>
> (Two members of one of the review boards recently resigned form the 
> board to join ICANN! I see that the present CEO of Go daddy registrar 
> was a member of accountability review board! Dont know if he was 
> concurrently both.)
>
> I also cannot understand how the chair of the board of ICANN, the main 
> party to be reviewed and made accountable, can have a veto on choosing 
> members of the review board.
>
> Accordingly, we can take it that these 4 review boards are at the most 
> internal review boards, for focussing some amount of organisational 
> thinking on needed process changes etc. By no stretch of imagination 
> can they be considered and proposed as oversight, and accountability 
> extracting, bodies, as some people have liberally been doing. We see 
> AoC review boards frequently mentioned in discussions over CIR 
> oversight. In the above light, this can be considered as wrong, and 
> kind of misleading.
>
> parminder
>
>>
>> Disclaimer:  My views alone. No fiscal unions were established in the
>> preparation this email.
>>
>>
>>
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