[governance] Re: CSTD WG on IGF 4th Meeting - 1st Memo

Thu Jan 12 04:27:41 EST 2012

Hello Anriette

I agree that remote participation is a still a hurdle race for our friends in DCs ... even in BRICS :-)

IMHO there are two lessons to be drawn from this situation :
- it is far more effective to participate physically in a meeting even in the "Internet age" 
- WSIS organizers show an exagerated faith in Internet for considering remote participation as a viable means for CS in DCs to actually contribute to WSIS outcomes ... or they use remote participation for hiding their inability to finance the physical participation of qualified CS representatives (chosen by their orgs members).

In any case CS should be more offensiive in this matter and oblige WSIS organizers to tackle this very important issue. This is also one of the recuurrent issues raised by Parminder on our list. Serious proposals were presented by Louis Pouzin during the open (WSIS Forum) prepatory meetings with the support of all CS participants present. Without any progress. 

CS cannot any longer put up with such a "black hole" in the WSIS process unless it is discredits itself.

Best

Jean-Louis Fullsack
CSDPTT-France

> Message du 11/01/12 15:33
> De : "Anriette Esterhuysen" 
> A : governance at lists.cpsr.org
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> Objet : Re: [governance] Re: CSTD WG on IGF 4th Meeting - 1st Memo
> 
> Hi all... my attempt at being a remote participant is failing miserably.
> This reminds me that:
> 
> - internet speeds in South Africa are still generally pathetically slow
> 
> - people who participate remotely in IGF processes deserve a HUGE amount
> of respect for their patience during IGFs and open consultations.
> 
> Audio is much better this afternoon.. so I remain hopeful.
> 
> Thanks for the updates from those in Geneva.
> 
> Best
> 
> Anriette
> 
> 
> On 11/01/12 16:09, Marilia Maciel wrote:
> > Guys, for the sake of clarity, just bear in mind that we are reporting
> > roughly our own interpretation of what we hear/understand, ok?
> > But you are right, valuable to explore further. It was a good point.
> > M
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Baudouin SCHOMBE > > > wrote:
> > 
> > Wolfgang can explain the idea that suggested:
> > 
> > "/- Wolfgang made an important// point about the need to
> > separate linkages with UN, with regional/national IGFs
> > and with other organizations. I think he mentioned the idea of the
> > observatory, which was ventilated before here and, more recently,
> > by IBSA. Maybe it could be a way to tie //these up"/
> > 
> > Just for a good understanding
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN
> > 
> > Téléphone mobile:+243998983491 
> > email : b.schombe at gmail.com
> > 
> > skype : b.schombe
> > blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
> > Site Web : www.ticafrica.net 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 2012/1/11 Marilia Maciel > > >
> > 
> > Some views to add to Izumi's memo:
> > 
> > 
> > - Remote participation is working well for me. Audio is good
> > (minor cuts) and I made a remote intervention. Not as fluid and
> > interactive as onsite, so it has political implication on a
> > meeting like this. But secretariat and members are really open
> > to receive remote inputs. Anriette is having problems with
> > audio, unfortunately.
> > - The meeting started warm. Afterwards it improved in the
> > discussion of point E on links between the IGF and other processes.
> > - Some argued that these links mean that secretariat
> > should do outreach and PR, and inform about the IGF. Others
> > argued for stronger links to communicate IGF outcomes
> > (convergences and divergences), especially with other
> > organizations of the UN system, and ask them for feedback.
> > - Time was spent to discuss competences of the executive
> > coordinator of the IGF. Kind of pointless, imo, but maybe I
> > could not get it well
> > - Wolfgang made an important point about the need to
> > separate linkages with UN, with regional/national IGFs
> > and with other organizations. I think he mentioned the idea of
> > the observatory, which was ventilated before here and, more
> > recently, by IBSA. Maybe it could be a way to tie these up
> > - Some misunderstanding happened and it seems that the answers
> > to the questions WG members asked about funding have not arrived
> > yet. Maybe they will arrive later today, so the point about
> > funding was postponed.
> > - Now the group is on lunch breake. Too early for me, so I am on
> > coffee breake.
> > 
> > Best,
> > M
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Izumi AIZU > > > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, from now on, i will not provide much details, as you can
> > understand. But will share the summaries.
> > 
> > 
> > After the wake-up discussion, we are entering into more
> > substantive
> > discussion on Linkage.
> > 
> > Several similar ideas and proposals are discussed -
> > 
> > Do not institutionalize too much
> > Make two-way communication with other bodies
> > 
> > Do not make IGF as if it is a decision making body.
> > 
> > It is important to carry out Outreach.
> > 
> > Who should "represent" IGF? Executive secretariat and
> > Special Advisor
> > or not - is now sort of being debated.
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