[governance] Access and Diversity [IGF 2012 - MAG Consultations]

Sat Feb 25 02:30:58 EST 2012

Dear Sala, Dear all,

We strongly believe that the issues of the participation of vulnerable
people in the Information Society and their voice should be raised and
we propose to include this under "Access and Diversity".

Kind regards, Yuliya
TaC-Together against Cybercrime

Le 23/2/2012, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"
<salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> a écrit:

>Hi everyone,
>
>Let me know if you would like to add additional thoughts etc. Volunteers
>are still needed to consolidate the themes etc to make it more coherent and
>will soon put it back to the list through the Statement Workspace for the
>rough consensus call before it is put to the MAG.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Sala
>
>On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
>salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Tim Davies <
>> tim at practicalparticipation.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Imran and others,
>>>
>>> I'm also uncomfortable if we frame 'Internet for Kids' as creating some
>>> sort of separate tightly filtered Internet. I would see the task of
>>> focussing on the Internet for Children much more as a question of ensuring
>>> there is positive content available to children in engaging online and
>>> making positive choices, rather than adults choosing to control children's
>>> and young people's access to information with filtered online spaces.
>>>
>>>
>> Excellent point Tim. I like this approach.
>>
>>  Perhaps if I could invite volunteers to work on consolidating the
>> comments and themes that have surfaced so we can get some level of
>> consensus. This is so we can prepare to send our thoughts. We will then put
>> it to the list for a consensus call.
>>
>> I think a language of Children's Rights is useful here, and the ideas
>>> Imran suggest below, might fit into the proposal I put in the Human Rights
>>> thread for reframing 'Child Protection' as a 'Children's Rights' thread.
>>> Below is what I said in that thread about the value in taking a Children's
>>> Rights approach to these issues:
>>>
>>> "On the suggestion for (11) on 'Online child protection', I would really
>>> like to see this framed as 'Children's Rights: Protection, Provision and
>>> Participation', rather than solely 'child protection', particularly as this
>>> is falling under a 'human rights' heading.
>>>
>>> I've written a bit on the justification for this at
>>> http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/23226/ - but essentially, when we adopt
>>> narrow narratives of 'online child protection' we end up (a) neglecting
>>> children and young people's broader set of rights to be active
>>> participants on the web, and to safe and supportive online provision; and
>>> (b) we adopt counter-productive strategies which don't even serve the
>>> intended goals of keeping young people safe from harm online. "
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Fatima Cambronero <
>>> fatimacambronero at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/2/21 McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/21/12, Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Thanks Sala for your comments,
>>>>> > This idea is derived from one of my friend/collegue, and we were
>>>>> discussing
>>>>> > that it is very hard to configure kids PCs for safe online surfing,
>>>>> > configuring the Firewall and Parental Protection kind of things, or
>>>>> using
>>>>> > the Kids-Safe-Online utilities individually obtained. Why not we
>>>>> devise some
>>>>> > governance for the provisioning of allowing just a single browser to
>>>>> Kids
>>>>> > Login, and a dedicated Search Engine that could provide the
>>>>> confidence of
>>>>> > Certified Clean Websites only related to the Kids.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't this violate their Human Rights?  (Access to
>>>>> Knowledge/Information/Right to Communicate).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And what about their privacy? Do children have no Right to Privacy?
>>>>
>>>> From what age do children acquire the right to privacy?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fatima
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> McTim
>>>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>>>>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>>>>>
>>>>>
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