[governance] The standards about the RPKI are out

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Wed Feb 8 10:03:02 EST 2012


Hi John,

Thanks for the pointer, will read the draft.

>From my first cursory glance seems like there might be a good governance discussion to be had  that would revolve around this issue and that draft.  I am not sure yet how this draft  indicates that the author's contentions are overcome by events, but I will look for that understanding in my reading.

thanks again,

avri


On 8 Feb 2012, at 04:44, John Curran wrote:

> On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> 
>> and the authors' contention
>> 
>>> As long as it is unclear how RPKI achieves compatibility among multiple roots, it is disingenuous to pretend that RPKI allows ISPs a free choice of trust anchors 
>>> ...
>> 
>> Today we find more efforts in the creation of various forms of circumvention.  I think this has the folliwng effects:
>> 
>> - serves as a warning for those who look to impose strictly hierarchical regimes
>> - produces an increasing number of circumvention techniques and opportunities
>> - increases the mindset that alternate solutions are possible and worth working on
>> 
>> So while it may be disingenuous to contend that _anyone_ could create an alternate root or a alternate RPKI trust anchor, it is not quite as disingenuous to contend that someone could.
>> 
>> I also agree with the point that routing is an important topic for governance discussion and that these issues deserve consideration in the IGC and in the governance discussions in general.  
> 
> 
> Avri - 
> 
> The author's contention has been overtaken by events, in that
> one of the IETF RPKI drafts specifically addresses how parties 
> that want to use RPKI should be able to control their reliance 
> on any given trust anchor and be able to establish their own 
> local rules for what information to utilize.  The proposed RPKI
> capability is on the IETF Standards Track and can be found here:
> <http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-sidr-ltamgmt-04.txt>
> 
> FYI,
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
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